Quesiton for Snapeophiles and -phobes RE Dumbledore, Snape, and Harry

[dzeytoun]

No: HPFGUIDX 114547


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kmcbears1" <karen at d...> wrote:
> 
> "pippin_999" wrote:
> > >> That would be an odd way for Harry to defend the rights of 
> > > innocent children, handing their world over to Voldemort, or 
do  
> > > you really not see any difference between normal WW culture, as 
> > > faulty and unenlightened as it is, and Voldemort's? 

Hmmm.  Well, do we know what Voldemort's culture would look like?  
We've got some idea, I suppose.  Frankly, though, Voldemort often 
looks like a much worthier and less evil person than Snape.  And yes, 
I do mean that quite literally.

> > Alla:
> > 
> > Pippin, I think you understood what I meant - this kind of 
culture 
> > is not something to be proud of, IMO. I think we both know that 
> > Harry is not going to hand this world to Voldemort.

Of course not.  Although if I were him I would be MIGHTILY tempted - 
especially if I could arrange for my friends and I to escape to a 
nice unplottable island in the Caribean.

> > 
> > Have you noticed that this "faulty and unelightened culture" 
> > produces evil lords with amazing speed , by the way?
> > 
> > Grindewald also did his deeds in the 20 century, then now we have 
> > Voldemort.
> > 
> > yes, I think something is VERY wrong with such world.

I agree absolutely with that.

> 
> kmc adds:
> 
> And the real world hasn't produced evil leaders/dictators with the 
> same speed?

Hmmm.  Considering the difference in population, I would have to say 
that the Wizarding World has the definite edge on creating extremely 
dangerous (i.e. world class) threats over the span of the twentieth 
century.  

The deeper point here relates to something that I once said in 
relation to Dumbledore, i.e. if the wizarding world truly believes it 
is appropriate to condemn a child to years of abuse for the purpose 
of saving itself, then it has already lost.  Same thing here in a 
different context.  If the wizarding world really believes that 
Snape's behavior is OK, then in a very real way it has already lost.  
Survival in and of itself doesn't mean very much -- cockroaches 
manage it quite nicely.  The question is what you stand for that is 
worthy of saving.  So far some elements of the wizarding world seem 
worth saving.  But the wizarding world in general?  Frankly, if this 
were a "real" situation being reported on by CNN I would be watching 
gleefully from the sidelines hoping most of the wizarding world 
(including Snape, Voldemort, the Ministry, most of the pureblood 
families, all of Slytherin House, and probably Dumbledore) stung each 
other to death like so many scorpions in a bottle.  And I, 
personally, would probably advise Harry to let most of the SOB's burn.

Dzeytoun