Sirius' death (was: Dept of Mysteries Veil Room)

[mhbobbin]

No: HPFGUIDX 114575


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, macfotuk at y... wrote:
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mhbobbin" <mhbobbin at y...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, (message 114429) Magda 
> Grantwich 
> > <mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
> > > What would be the point of bringing Sirius
> back?
> 
> Because in all the hair-splitting, detailed discussions about this
> issue, no one has made a compelling case that Sirius' presence is
> somehow important to the plot of the series.
> > 
> > mhbobbin:
> > 
> 
> snip
> 
>  I am NOT convinced that Sirius is 
> > important to the storyline. 
> 
> endsnip
> 
> Mac: But why is there a whole book devoted to Sirius? (PoA) What 
was 
> the purpose of this book? Was it just to acieve Pettigrew being 
> outed as scabbers, have him escape and, moreover, in wizard's debt 
> to HP? I don't think so.  snip> 
> I for one don't think Sirius is an incomprehensible plot 
> deviation/hole/red herring. Over-loved maybe (yes I was one too - 
a 
> Sirius fan), but hardly insignificant. I guess only JKR *knows*, 
but 
> she says she's laid her clues carefully, so if they are there 
> concerning Sirius, it seems some of us have yet to find them. And, 
> yes, that includes me.
> 
>snip

mhbobbin:

I believe Harry will descend like Orpheus beyond the Veil and 
attempt to bring Sirius back, as I've oft-posted, because I see 
clues which  may mean, depending on a point of view, I am delusional 
or brilliant.

My little quote above is meant to refer to Sirius' importance in the 
final two novels not to his overall importance to the story. When 
asked why is it so important for Sirius to not be dead, why is it so 
important that he come back--I am stymied. I cannot support a 
rationale because I see no clues yet. His role is diminished in Book 
Five. He's important to Harry and offers him a family bond with an 
adult missing in his life. But other adults give Harry better 
advice. And Hermione even doubts whether forming the DA is a good 
idea, once Sirius endorses it. Sirius is reckless and emotional. He 
may even be drinking too much. And Harry some times feels guilty 
about leaving Sirius to go back to school. A grim existence.  
Unrealized potential due to unfortunate circumstances.


As written in my Post 114458, with two books left, JKR will have to 
lay some groundwork to justify sending Harry on a Quest beyond the 
Veil. I believe she doesn't have enough ink left--if she doesn't 
want to break our backs--to send him on a Mission that is unrelated 
to the larger story. Nor do I believe that DD or any one else would 
allow the potential Vanquisher to go on this dangerous Mission, 
without first having a really good reason related to vanquishing LV 
rather than the injustice and cruelty of this individual's death. 
And that would assume that Harry learns that such a Mission is 
possible.

Grimly,

mhbobbin