Something about Harry (was: Snape and Harry again)

[garybec]

No: HPFGUIDX 114700


HunterGreen: (jumping in)
> I feel the same way about the prophecy, and was severely 
disappointed
> when it was introduced into the text. I think I agree with both 
Carol
> and SSSusan in that regard. I would prefer for Harry to have been
> special when he was born (with the ability to do things like throw
> off the imperius curse and learn difficult things like the patronus
> charm very easily), because that means the prophecy is not self-
> fulfilling.
>
> If Harry was born as an average wizard (with perhaps the capacity 
for
> being a Quidditch prodigy), and the prophecy came along and 
*caused*
> him to be special (by causing Voldemort to attack him/give him 
some of
> Voldemort's powers, and causing his mother to die to save him, 
which
> gave him the blood protection), then I think Harry has Professor
> Trelawney to blame for his life. I would prefer to think that Harry
> *already* had the power to defeat the dark lord, and that she only
> *predicted* it, rather than causing it (the events at the end of 
PoA
> would have happened the same if she hadn't predicted them, for 
example).
> However, I think this is where the story is going, so I have 
trouble
> believing it, it's more of a lingering hope.


Elanor Pam:
I actually think that, if Harry had been "born" special, or had some 
kind of
built-in ability, it'd completely destroy the whole concept of the 
story.
Harry became the one who could destroy Voldemort because Voldemort 
CHOSE
him. He had the bright idea of pointing his wand at Harry and that 
was what
made all the difference. Voldemort's choices should be taken into 
account as
well. 

Becki now;
I think HunterGreen in on the right track with his version of the 
prophecy being the prediction, not the cause.  I believe everything 
would have happened even if the prophecy (ies) would never have been 
heard.  Kind of like the tree in the woods falling, would it still 
make noise if no one was there to hear it?

There is no where in the prophecy that LV chooses "the one".  It 
says that  he will  mark  "the one", which, IMO just tells everyone 
who it is.  He is fulfilling his portion of the prophecy.  Harry 
does not have any choice in the matter of whether or not to fight 
Voldy, except if he chooses not to prepare, he will probably not be 
the one to "survive", the part of the prophecy that is ambiguous. 

Becki  (calling out to Jo, "Answer the open letter!!!!!)