Quesiton for Snapeophiles and -phobes RE Dumbledore, Snape, and Harry
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 5 08:20:38 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 114812
> Amandageist:
> My husband mentioned, after reading the (at that time) three
books, that Snape is a grown man and Harry is a child;
any "struggle" between them is mostly in Harry's mind. Snape has
higher priorities than making Harry's life
> awful; bedeviling Harry doesn't dominate his thoughts and dreams.
Snape is a far larger factor in Harry's life than Harry is of
Snape's.
>
Valky:
Hi Amandageist! It's been so long since you dropped us an On Topic
Pearl of Wisdom and it's really nice to hear from you.
I agree with your husband, Harry is not a consequence in himself to
Snape. Most likely when Harry is not around Snape isn't at all
brewing anger about him. With the exception of perhaps the week
after the pensieve incedent in OOtP which incedently had Snape
*ignoring* Harry. Thats a good indication that if Snape *was*
overcome with continual thoughts of Harry hate then he'd probably
act like that most of the time, which he doesn't.
> Amandageist:
> I still believe that Snape's nastiness is his "autopilot" mode,
the way he operates when he's not really thinking about it. I think
it's probably easy for him because of his past, and that it fits
well with his nature--but I also still believe that it is
deliberate, so that the memories he has of places and people will be
appropriate when facing the skilled Legilimens Voldemort; so that
the memories he must suppress are minimal and in a very
> few, controlled, locations.
>
> That, I think, is why Snape will not eat at Sirius' house;
Valky:
I couldn't agree more, recently I posted to Snape threads how I see
that Snape has chosen to put on a nasty front. A front I have
noticed falls down like a ton of bricks twice in HP history. Both
times are when he is confronted with Sirius Black.
To add my own POV to yours the way I see it Snape, the fascinating
creature (but I think we are starting to peg him to the wall if I
dare speak so soon ;P), is able to live in relative peace and think
nothing of Harry until he is confronted with him. Because then he is
facing a pain he cannot escape, not Harry, but James.
I am speculating, and I am going to do a lot of that this week JKR
so I hope you *ARE* watching, I shall write clearly ;D, and it goes
thusly:
Sirius is like a compound unscratchable inner itch, he irritates
Snape so deeply. Snape doesn't feel he is at all inferior to Sirius
and he never has and blow it Sirius is just lucky most of the time
as far as Snape is concerned. Sirius was the one who wriggled out of
the prank on a technicality, he's the one that Snape so wants to
show up and take down with *two-hands!* tied behind his back. But
more than that Sirius had the spot that Snape himself coveted,
James' right hand.
You see I think the wound that goes too deep for healing, and this
is NOT A SHIP, is a broken heart. Let me first relate you a story.
When I was five I complained to my mother that a child who sat
behind me in class was throwing spitballs at the back of my head. My
mother who is a very wise lady just laughed and said to me "Well
actually, that means he *likes* you."
Ok, now, not surprisingly I thought she was off her flamin rocker
what on earth was she on about and fair dinkum the kid was pelting
me with his germy saliva! Surely he was trying to make me suffer,
right?
Wrong! She asked him... and shyly he grinned and nodded.
Snape attacked James all through his schooldays, by the end it was
hate but in the beginning I am not so sure.
Lupins shiny drop of insight: "James was everything Snape wanted to
be Popular Good at Sports....."
AHA! Lupin was on to something there but, maybe he hadn't had it
quite right. Maybe Snape hadn't wanted to be James but instead just
wanted to be James' friend.
Now here's where I imagine it could *really* hurt forever. Imagine
you were rejected by the person you admired for seven years learned
to despise them, wondered what you ever saw in them, finally reposed
satisfied in your judgement that they were scum and it didn't matter
anymore and then one of the SOB's, the one you looked up to all
those years ago, saves your life!
You get up brush yourself off and say " Yeah right! I could've been
grateful BUT YOU'RE A FEW YEARS LATE TO BE NICE NOW!!!"
So I think what Snape sees in Harry is not just a James that he
hates and thinks is scum, but a James that he is confused about,
wishes never existed, someone who *could* have been his friend but
blew it.
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