Now *that* is interesting

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Wed Oct 6 09:16:18 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 114943


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dzeytoun" <dzeytoun at c...> wrote:
> 
> You know, several people on various forums the last year or so have 
> said that Lily had something to do with the charm placed on Harry.  I 
> don't recall *anything* in canon to suggest that.  As far as I know, 
> the only reference we have is from Dumbledore, who says "But she took 
> you, and in doing so sealed the charm that *I* placed on you."
> 
> So it seems to me that DD is saying Lily had nothing to do with the 
> charm, other than that it was her sacrifice that energized it.  
> Rather, in trying to decide how best to protect Harry, he decided to 
> invoke the power of Lily's sacrificial love by placing this ancient 
> magic on Harry.  
> 
> Can someone come up with a canon reference to show that Lily had 
> anything at all to do with the *charm,* as opposed to her love being 
> the foundation of the magic the charm uses?
> 

I  don't  know about other sites (don't have enough time to browse 'em)
but it was certainly suggested and discussed here.

My take on it was that  it was down to DD and was an extrapolation of my
slightly  perverse re-reading of the Prophecy - the "neither can live
while the other  survives"  might refer  to James and Lily dying so  that
Harry lives. If so, then DD knows before-hand what is likely to happen 
at GH and makes arrangements accordingly, producing what is in effect
Weapon!Harry.  How much he tells the Potters is open to speculation. 
And the Prophecy then becomes self-fulfilling -  an interesting aspect 
considering that JKR spends an awful lot of time rubbishing  Divination.)

Most of the evidence comes from Voldy and  DD that Lily may not have
been responsible for the protection, though DD's words, as usual, can
be considered to be a little ambiguous. Depends how much you want
to believe Voldy - that " unwittingly provided him with protection" is
definitely not ambiguous, though of course staunch Lily fans have
other ideas. Voldy has lied before - the "Hagrid kept werewolf cubs 
under his bed" bit. Not stated as untrue in the books, but in an interview,
which I think is not quite playing the game.

Kneasy

  







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