OotP Harry not a prefect & his Inner Voice
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 7 18:09:02 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115106
Cory wrote :
" I guess for me though, the fact that we haven't been told about
certain things leads me to assume that they haven't happened if they
seem like things that we should have been told about. "
Del replies :
I never said you had to think like me :-) Your point of view is just
as valid as mine, I'm just telling you where I come from.
However, I'd like to remind you that we're discussing a *WIP* written
by *JKR*. She's proven several times that she *will* withhold
important information if she deems it necessary. We weren't told about
Harry's Godfather until the third book, even though his story was *so*
important to the overall story.
Granted, though, the probability that JKR is withholding any important
information about Dean and Seamus is very small. But still, let's not
forget alternative Prophecy-boy Neville, or all the background JKR
once had on Dean.
Cory wrote :
" For example, we know that Harry has good leadership skills, because
he led DA. From a plot standpoint, the formation of DA was one of
the most important events in OotP, and arguably, the series. A few
posts ago you argued that it's possible that Dean or Seamus might have
done something similar, and we shouldn't assume that they haven't just
because we haven't been told about it. I guess my point is that if
Dean or Seamus had done something of the magnitude of forming and
leading DA, we should have been told about it, so for the present
time, I am content to assume that they haven't."
Del replies :
Misunderstanding here. I never meant to say that Dean or Seamus ever
did anything of the *magnitude* of forming and leading the DA (and btw
it was Hermione who formed the DA, not Harry). If they had, we would
know, of course (well, I guess). I only said that they might have
formed and/or led their own clubs, which would demonstrate their
leadership qualities just as well as leading the DA did for Harry.
Just because Dean would lead the Gobstones club, or Seamus the "A
letter for an Azkaban prisoner" club, which would admittedly be clubs
much less important than the DA, wouldn't mean they didn't demonstrate
their leadership qualities just as well.
Cory wrote :
" Having Ron and Hermione as prefects enabled her to demonstrate
certain things about their characters -- Hermione got to show that she
has a backbone (standing up to the twins when they were feeding their
joke candies to the first years). Ron...well I don't know, exactly;
he didn't exactly do a bang-up job as a prefect."
Del replies :
Actually, if you look closely, you'll realise that making Ron and
Hermione Prefects does not seem to have brought anything to the story.
You say we learned Hermione has a backbone, but let's be honest, we'd
known that for a *long* time (all the way back to PS/SS in fact). As
for Ron, as you point out, becoming a Prefect doesn't seem to have had
any effect on him. It seems all of it was almost *useless*.
Interesting, at least to me.
Del
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