GH re-re-revisited

Hannah hannahmarder at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Oct 8 14:47:33 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 115201


Kneasy wrote:
<snip of anti-emotional stuff :-)>
> Anyone who bothers to read my stuff is well aware that I've long
> believed that DD predicted the probable course that events would
> take at GH and took precautions accordingly. This meant that for
> Harry to survive James and Lily couldn't. Some may see this as 
harsh
> and contrary to the view of DD as caring and compassionate, but I
> don't see it that way; DD believes that Harry is the person who can
> defeat Voldy for good and unless that happens then there will be
> other James's, other Lilys, uncounted numbers of them, that will
> die because of Voldy. It's a question of doing what is necessary.
> 
<ruthless snippage>

> Now DD does say "We may never know." 
> Do you believe his protestation of ignorance? I don't.
> If he doesn't know everything then he at least knows a hell of a 
lot
> more than he's letting on, otherwise he wouldn't be so sure that
> Voldy would come back, or that Harry would need on-going protection
> or that the Prophecy had not already been fulfilled. Voldy has been
> vanquished (he uses this exact word in the OoP explication), Harry
> has been marked. Yippee! Put out more flags! It's all over, folks!
> But no; not DD. It ain't finished and he knows it. 
> 
> How? Bloody good question.
> Only one answer that I can see - he knows what happened.
> Only two ways he could know what happened - either because
> there was an eye-witness or because DD planned it that way. 
> Or both. Personally I think it's both. 
> 
> Your point that the only evidence we have are Harry's visions is 
well made; and it's all too easy to forget that these are inside his 
head and who else knows about them in any detail? Anybody? Unless
> DD has been rummaging around in Harry's memories he has to have
> got his info from somewhere else -  and even then Harry (so far as 
we know) hasn't a clue from his early memories of what happened to 
Voldy.
> There's more DD could  tell us, I think.

Hannah: IMO DD knew in advance, or was confident in his guess of, 
what was going to happen at GH (disregarding any time travel, which 
just makes everything too complicated).  There may have been an 
eyewitness too, but he had to have some kind of prior knowledge.  
Because he dispatched Hagrid to the scene with instructions of where 
to take Harry *remarkably* fast.  

Hagrid gets there 'before the muggles start swarming round.'  That 
has to be fairly soon after an entire house blows up.  I don't see 
how DD could have found out what had happened, been all shocked 
about it, decided what was best to do with Harry, and then sent 
Hagrid off, all in such a short time frame.  

He also must have been confident that LV had gone.  Because why else 
would he send Hagrid, who has only rudimentary magical knowledge, 
unless he *knew* that all Hagrid had to do was rescue the baby, not 
face the all powerful Dark Lord.

DD knows much more than he lets on, at least I hope so, 'cos I want 
answers at some point, and I don't know who else can provide them.  
I definitely don't believe his protestation of innocence to 
McGonagall at the start of PS.  DD's 'truth is preferable to lies' 
comment doesn't mean that he can't or won't lie, or at least bend, 
amend, omit or conceal the truth.  I don't think he's ESE! but he's 
definitely not a bearded personification of all things good either.

Hannah







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