JKR characterizations--oversimplification?
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 9 17:38:29 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115292
> Pippin:
> That's just the issue, really. Sirius makes a huge point of saying
> that *he* would have been willing to die for his friends rather
> than betray them, and I believe he spoke out of personal
> conviction, but when push came to shove, he tried to jigger
> things so he wouldn't have to make the choice.
Jen: Purely out of curiosity, did you believe Sirius was trying
to 'jigger things' to get out of making that choice when you first
read his story in POA? My first reaction after reading POA, was
along these lines: "Man, that guy got a raw deal. First one of his
friends framed him as a traitor, then he was thrown into this
bizarre Wizard prison with no trial, no hope of survival *and* he
wants to take care of Harry now. This dude sounds OK." In GOF he
appeared to be taking up where he left off in POA, attempting to
help Harry in his own imperfect way while on the run from the law.
(As a big aside, I'm purposely not talking here about whether Sirius
was a good godfather, or a good influence on Harry or any of the
like. I'm simply trying to sort out what motivations I ascribed to
Sirius at the time of my inital reading.)
With OOTP, most of the characters acted in ways that surprised and
dismayed me at times, so I lumped Sirius in with Molly, Harry, Percy
Dumbledore and Snape as exhibiting some of their negative
characteristics to the extreme. And of course, with the addition of
Umbridge and Fudge acting so corruptly from their positions of
power, they overshadowed the negatives of the Order members in my
mind.
But NOW, in retrospect, and with the addition of JKR's
summation....well all I can say is her summary wasn't the *main*
thing I read into the character. I didn't see that the *main*
motivation on Sirius' part was to merely be a spouter of philosophy
with no follow-through. Now that JKR is sharing her beliefs about
Sirius as a character, I have no choice but to accept it. It taints
the character for me though, and makes me wonder what else I'm
reading differently from how she intends it; what other characters
have different motivations from those I've assigned so far?
> Pippin:
> Murder is against Sirius's personal philosophy, but he's willing
> to murder Pettigrew (he calls it that) to get revenge.
Jen: When Lupin and Sirius calmly rolled up their sleeves to murder
Peter, they appeared to be veteran fighters who were trained to
injure and kill. My personal philosphy is they were making the wrong
choice, as they weren't in the middle of a war anymore and Peter
should be handed over to the justice system, such as it is. But
unless I'm forgetting a canon point where Sirius stated he was
opposed to murder (and I know you will be able to quote me one if it
exists, Pippin!) I definitely had the feeling Sirius and Lupin had
killed before.
Pippin:
> Harry himself observes more than once that he's getting mixed
> messages from Sirius, so I'm not sure how you can say that this
> isn't carried out in the books.
Jen: Hopefully my first answer speaks to this. It's not so much that
now, after reflection on JKR's thoughts, that I can't *possibly* see
Sirius in the way she presented him. It's more that I'm disappointed
by it and feel a certain sense of trepidation about future books and
my own abilty to perceive where JKR is headed with certain
characters. Other people enjoy that feeling more than I do ;).
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