Should Neville Stand or Sit in Defiance WAS Re: Snape
huntergreen_3
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Sun Oct 10 12:42:43 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115328
Carol wrote:
> To begin with, I'm wholly unable to imagine Neville defying any
> teacher and I can't think of any form of defiance of a teacher by a
> pupil which would be considered appropriate within the WW.
> It would be much better for Neville, IMO, simply to demonstrate
> competence in Snape's class (in the unlikely event that he finds
> himself in NEWT Potions). Follow directions, don't cringe or
> tremble, don't melt your cauldron, and you won't get picked on.
Valky replied:
>>Competence is not the deeper issue at all. Consider Crabbe and
Goyle. They make pretty awful disasters themselves and don't get
picked on. Not to mention that Hermione, oops I am mentioning it, is
far more than competent and it is her high level of competence that
is the problem for Snape rather than a lack of it.<<
HunterGreen:
Snape doesn't work fairly. He doesn't pick on *everyone* who is
incompetent, but if Neville suddenly started doing fine in class, he
would have no reason to bully him (its the same solution people are
suggesting with Harry: he stops breaking rules and talking back
around Snape, and doesn't rise to Snape's bait and Snape will -- in
theory -- stop bothering him so much. Ideally, Snape wouldn't be
acting like this, but Neville and Harry are more likely to change
than him).
As for Hermione, although her penchant for *always* knowing the
answer competes with his superiority fix, he gives her trouble when
she speaks out of turn, not when she simply does her potion
correctly, or hands in a correct paper. Yes, its unfair for him to
not call on her when she knows the answer (and is raising her hand),
but *many* RL teachers do this on occasion when they have one student
dominating the class (even Lupin does it in his own way).
When it comes to Neville, I have to agree with Carol in this
situation, I can't see him being the type to defy a teacher, nor do I
think it would be appropriate. However, a scene where Neville stands
up to Snape (beyond the Boggart!Snape scene in PoA), would be
interesting, and good for him. I think it would work better if it
happened in a non-classroom scene (however, Snape has little reason
to bully Neville beyond potions class).
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