LV Inmortality

jlnbtr jlnbtr at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 11 16:50:41 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 115417



Jlnbtr:
>I have a theory regarding DD's sparks when Harry tells him that LV 
took some of his blood. In SS when Hagrid first meets Harry and tells 
him about LV he says he doesn't think LV dead for he is not enough 
human. What if by taking Harry's blood he becomes "more human"? This 
would mean that as a human he could be killed for good.

mhbobbin:
>Now, why didn't DD try to kill LV in his duel with him in the MoM--
(not obviously when Harry was possessed by LV) if he thought that LV 
might now be slightly mortal? Does DD really put that much faith in 
a prophecy that indicates Harry must be the Vanquisher? Hasn't DD 
worked to that point to convince Harry (and us) that predicting the 
future is at best an inexact skill?

Neri:
>First, your theory doesn't answer JKR's second question in the 
Edinburgh Book Festival –Why didn't DD try to kill LV in the MoM 
battle? So let me suggest animprovement: LV can now be killed because 
he took human blood into his veins, but he can be killed only by the 
human of which his blood he had used, namely Harry. So this explains 
nicely the gleam in DD's eyes: he realized that LV had just fulfilled 
the prophecy by his own actions. Again!

>Personally I always assumed when reading this passage that LV cannot
be killed because he is vapor. But your theory suggests a different
explanation: LV could not be killed even BRFORE he became vapor,
because in one of his "experiments" he traded his humanity for
immortality, and this is why the rebound AK didn't kill him in
Godric's Hollow, thought it should have done it

jlnbtr now:
LV though a brilliant wizard forgets many thing, like for exemple 
when Lily died to save Harry, he completly forgot the protection that 
such sacrifice grants. That same night he AK Harry, anyone else would 
have died, but not Harry, all because the before mentioned 
protection. This curse turned out to be Harry's and LV's union, their 
link through which they'll always be connected. What if the only way 
to break this connection is when either one dies? 

As LV tells his DE, he's tried more than anyone to achieve 
inmortality, what if he didn't become inmortal, but just can't be 
killed by regular means? As I've said before, when LV took some of 
Harry's blood and his father's bone (lots of muggle blood there) he 
may have become more human than he was before the AK, therefore he 
could be killed BUT as Trelawney's profecy clearly states the one 
with the power to vanquish the dark lord forever will be born at the 
end of July... it's clear that it's not Neville, so Harry can (and 
hopefully will) kill LV for good, he couldn't have done it 15 years 
ago, but maybe he could do it now.

The reason DD didn't even tried to kill LV is because he's aware of 
the profecy, he knows only Harry can kill him, so what's the point of 
trying to do something that'll never work? His only interest for now 
is to save Harry and "teach" him how he can kill LV. How I have no 
idea, we already know their wands can't fight each other because of 
the priori incantem, maybe Harry will use someone else's wand? I 
don't think so. So this "power" whatever it is is what's going to 
kill him. I guess we'll just have to wait until book 6 and find out.

Have a great day everyone

Juli/jlnbtr












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