GH re-re-revisited

[dungrollin]

No: HPFGUIDX 115456


> > Dungrollin, previously:
> > If he wants to 
> > read Harry's mind to check whether he's a potential 
> > competitor for the EvilBastardoftheMillenium cup, he should 
> > use Legithingy, shouldn't he?  Can you read a wizard's 
> > powers like that?  What could he gain from *possessing* 
> > Harry?  Means and opportunity granted in spades, but where's 
> > the motive? 
> 
> Kneasy:
> Not sure that Legilimancy would be the right tool for the job 
> - it accesses memories, reads thoughts - and Harry is unlikely 
> to have used his power yet so he'll have no memories of it.
> Not sure it can measure power, magical potential. To  find out 
> about that I'd think that you would have to get in there and 
> use it to see what it can do. Could be wrong, but that's my take 
> with the information available as of now.

Dungrollin:
Sorry, I was being a bit thick there, you're right about the 
Legilimency.  So... You're suggesting Voldy was after a simple 
test-flight (with no obligation to buy), but instead got a 
turbo-assisted ejector-seat exit from the physical plane.
Hmm.  I see.  

I've been pondering and pondering, and reading the back posts, 
and coming up with some stunningly brilliant ideas, which on 
closer examination all turn out to be rubbish.

But, I do have one last (at least I hope it's the last) problem with 
this possession malarky, and it'sabout the interplay between the 
spell(/charm/curse/whatever) that Voldy uses and the protection left 
by Lily (and presumably DD).  I'll just recap what I was saying 
about backfiring/rebounding spells in my original post (115135). If 
Voldy's attempting a possession, and the spell *backfires* (i.e.
affects the caster rather than the castee), then Harry should end 
up possessing Voldy, and bits of Harry would end up in Voldy, not 
the other way around.

What you're suggesting, (if I've understood correctly) is
more 
akin to a rat entering a trap, realising it's a trap, doing a 
quick one-eighty to get out sharpish, but not quite quick 
enough to avoid getting it's tail cut off by the guillotine that 
comes down on its way out.  Thus bits of Voldy stay in Harry.  
And he gets ripped from his body, pain beyond pain and so on and 
so forth at the same time.  Right?

Which would mean DD's not just mistaken, or cherry-picking the 
truth, he's telling significant fibs. 

Don't get me wrong, I *like* the idea of devious!Dumbledore. 
That weapon!Harry is his big plan, and he won't let anything get 
in its way.  I like going over everything he says and turning it 
upside down, giving it a good shake, and seeing if any new insights 
(like bits of old fluff) fall out.

It's just that... well, there's a *whole page* of blithering 
about the obvious flaw in his plan (and how he alone could 
prevent this flaw from ruining it, so he alone must be strong), 
before he gets round to saying: 
`I cared about you too much... I cared more for your happiness 
than your knowing the truth, more for your peace of mind than 
my plan, more for your life than the lives that might be lost if 
the plan failed.  In other words, I acted exactly as Voldemort 
expects we fools who love to act.'

Though I could, I suppose, be accused of quoting him out of context.

I'm feeling a bit guilty that I'm sniping a lot, without
coming up 
with anything half-decent myself. Sorry.

Dungrollin

There is a theory that says: if anyone actually finds out what the 
universe is for, it will immediately vanish, to be replaced by 
something even more bizarrely inexplicable.
There is another theory that says: this has already happened.
HHGTTG