Who was in the house?

[mhbobbin]

No: HPFGUIDX 115458


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "impherring13" 
<impherring13 at y...> wrote:
snip> 
>   During PA, Harry begins to regain memories of the night his 
parents  were killed.  He hears his mother (or the person we are 
almost> positive is his Lily), and his father (or the person we are 
not so > positive is James).  snip snipWhat I propose
> is that the male voice is not James, but Peter Pettigrew.  In the 
wand > order we are given in GF, we are told that Voldemort killed 
James,  then Lily with no intervening spells.  
> 
>   This is my idea of the sequence of events:
>     Voldemort (or one of his Death Eaters) kills James while he is 
on > an Order of the Pheonix mission shortly before Voldemort 
arrives in  Godric's Hollow.  Peter, who as secret keeper has been 
staying with > the Potters meets Voldemort at the door.  He lies to 
Lily, saying that > Voldemort is there and he will hold him off.  He 
actually Brings > Voldemort to Lily.  After Voldemort's failed 
attempt to kill Harry,
> Peter takes Voldemort's wand and runs off.  
>   This tells us why Remus is surprised to hear that James was in 
the
> house.  We must remember that at this point Remus still believes 
Peter
> is innocent, therefore there is no reason to mention to Harry who 
was
> really there.  This also clears up how Peter came to have 
Voldemort's
> wand.  Tell me what you think.

mhbobbin:

This theory addresses the  male voice and Remus' strange reaction to 
it-- with James being killed away from the house. However, once 
Voldemort can see Godric Hollow, I don't think he's going to knock 
on the door or wait for Peter to let him it. I think he's just going 
to barge in. As Sirius expected to find Peter at Peter's own secret 
hiding place that night, I don't think Peter would be staying with 
the Potters, although he could have been at GH in advance of LV. I 
think Peter is present with LV. It may even be his voice yelling for 
Lily to run. And he likely did take the wand and hide it.

What this doesn't address is how everyone--and especially Dumbledore-
-knew of events. The male voice is a clue--i think--especially since 
Harry assumes it to be his father's--typical JKR switcheroo. Remus' 
reaction is a clue. And the speed in which Dumbledore dispatches 
Hagrid is a clue.

Right now, I lean more towards the other current thread--2-way 
mirror, floo network, portrait---that allows a witness not 
physically present at the scene to witness, and possibly, to be 
heard yelling for Lily to run. 

Perhaps it was even Lupin's voice. Do we have any clues as to 
whether it was a full moon?

mhbobbin