[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore's animagus; invisibility

[kim reynolds]

No: HPFGUIDX 115659


Legobaty wrote:

>I also like the idea that Dumbledore is a "natural" animagus. But invisibility skills aside, wouldn't his animagus be a phoenix?  Given that he has a strong affiliation with the bird.

>I thought I saw a reference to Dumbledore's patronus as being a
phoenix and I don't know whether one would have both the patronus and animagus in the same form.

>Perhaps the patronus is always the protector/father figure - hence Harry's being the Stag his father turned into, and the animagus is more an animal representation of oneself.<<

Hi!  Kim here.  I've been away from HP4GU for a few days.  Wow, there sure is a lot to catch up on, but I think I'm at the most recent post on this particular thread. 
 
Your idea about the patronus being the animal form of the protector/father figure makes sense to me, though there's a slight problem because I don't think all wizards/witches neccessarily have animagus abilities (someone please correct me if they know otherwise), and so their children's patronuses(?) would have to be some other animal.  Or, for example, in muggle-born Hermione's case, her otter patronus definitely can't be based on her parent's animagus. 
 
I'm not sure Dumbledore's animagus would necessarily be the same animal as his patronus (phoenix), though it is possible, I suppose.  But being a transfiguration teacher, one would naturally assume he does have an animagus even though one has never been mentioned in canon.  Some posts back on this thread, a couple of folks (sorry, I don't have their names handy) suggested that DD's animagus is a bumblebee since that's the meaning of the name Dumbledore.  Similarly, Rita Skeeter's animagus was a beetle; a beetle's not the same as a mosquito (skeeter), of course, but the suggestion of an insect is still there in her name (and having an animagus as small as an insect is almost as good as being invisible -- you know the expression "like being a fly on the wall," where you're so small you can observe goings-on virtually unnoticed, and you're safe as long as no one sees you and swats at you!).  Just as Sirius Black means black dog, and Remus Lupin suggests a wolf (though in his case
 turning into a werewolf isn't quite the same as having animagus abilities).
 
Nevertheless, your idea that DD's animagus is a phoenix is still very interesting, considering that he might be able to come back to life if he died when in the form of a phoenix...!
 
Cheers, Kim




		
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