A thought about PS/SS
justcarol67
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Sat Oct 16 04:42:45 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115674
kmc wrote:
> > He [Dumbledore] may have been expecting Sirius to be at GH. It
may be the reason he sent Hagrid and not someone else. I have read
these books numerous times and it is just now that I associated the
"No problems, were there?" with the fact that Sirius was there. <snip>
> >
> > Which leads to another question? If the Potters were being
> protected by the Fidelus charm, how did Hagrid know where Harry
> was? You would think that the charm was still in effect and Hargid
> could put his nose right against the rubble and not see Harry.
>
Hannah responded:
> <snip> Hagrid was a friend of the Potters, so he may have known the
> location. He could have been shown a piece of paper where Peter had
> written the location (so needn't have known of the switch). I think
> that the charm was broken when the house blew up. After all,
> muggles were alerted and 'started swarming round.' So Hagrid
> needn't even have known. As for DD's lack of reaction to Sirius
> being there, it's just another suspicious thing about the whole set
> up.
Carol adds:
I'm not so sure about the piece of paper (where would it have come
from?), but I agree that the spell ending when Voldemort killed the
Potters is at least a plausible explanation for DD's being able to
tell Hagrid where to find them. I think he also told Hagrid that
Sirius might use his claim as Harry's godfather to try to take the
child and Hagrid was to refuse him at all costs. "No trouble, was
there?" is DD's way of asking whether Sirius caused any trouble
without revealing to either Hagrid or McGonagall that DD thinks Sirius
betrayed the Potters. After all, he doesn't *know* anything except
that James *planned* to make Sirius the Secret Keeper. The incident in
which Sirius goes after Peter and ostensibly murders thirteen people
hasn't happened yet, or if it has, DD soen't yet know about it.
There's a difference, after all, between betraying someone and trying
to kidnap a child and actually committing cold-blooded murder. And DD
appears satisfied that Sirius didn't try to prevent Hagrid from taking
Harry to Dumbledore. What else he thought we don't know. Possibly
"innocent until proven guilty"? The Pettigrew incident, unfortunately,
seems to have provided that "proof."
I've argued elsewhere that Dumbledore expected to find Harry alive
because he had helped Lily to protect Harry using "ancient magic."
Note that *Dumbledore* never denies that Voldemort tried to kill
Harry. Maybe he knows ways to protect against Avada Kedavra that no
one else, including Crouch!Moody and Voldemort, knows.
Carol, noting that The Boy Who Lived loses its significance if we
think that Voldemort used anything other than the Killing Curse on
Harry and wondering whether anyone has actually checked the relevant
passages to see whether the green light precedes or follows the high,
cold laugh
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