DD and the rat (was:Re: Minerva McGonagall-/Dumbledore)
snow15145
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Sat Oct 16 06:26:37 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 115682
Nora snipped:
One more issue, perhaps, to think of: we can surmise, I think, that
DD gave Black a good one-over when he had him alone in the office.
Ergo, DD, when he exerts the effort, knows when he is being lied to.
Snow:
I have to agree that Dumbledore saw guilt in Sirius when he
interviewed him, in POA, and was left with little alternative but to
except to save Sirius's life while saving the most important life of
all, Harry. Dumbledore is one quick thinker. He needed to save
Harry's life from the dementors so Harry would have to go back in
time. Giving explanations was not an alternative given the time frame
involved. What else to do but use the source that was given to him
which, unfortunately, was the guilty party; Sirius.
If Harry had not saved his previous self then Voldemort would have
won. Dumbledore's rhetorical request for Harry and Hermione to go
back in time to save more than one innocent life was the life of
Harry and Buckbeak not Sirius and Buckbeak. Dumbledore gave Harry
bait; an initiative to go back in time, to help someone Harry cared
about because Harry believed what Sirius said yet Dumbledore was
really concerned over losing Harry. When Harry went back in time he
saved three lives: Sirius, Buckbeak and more importantly himself. It
is Harry that Dumbledore was referring to when he said that they
would save more than one innocent life. Buckbeak was innocent of the
crime he had been accused of; Buckbeak was provoked even though Draco
was warned that to insult a hippogriff could be deadly. We know that
Harry and Buckbeak were both innocent so where does that leave Sirius
but bait for Harry's commitment to get the job done. The actual
drawback to the whole plan was that Harry saw Sirius as being
innocent and rescued him. This plan was the only way Dumbledore could
assure that Harry would succeed. Sirius was nothing more than a tool
that in the future could be extinguished when its necessity was no
longer required, and it was.
There are several hints that I had spotted (recently) in JKR's
referencing of Sirius that make me feel totally uneasy about the
character we thought we knew:
(1) She has an entire past history on this specific character
(2) She had stated that one of her earlier drafts of GH was where
Sirius was meeting with a known death-eater outside GH
(3) She said that the two-way mirror wouldn't have helped as much
as we think
If Sirius were guilty would the two-way mirror really help?
Sirius is accusatory to most everyone but especially to Snape. If you
are a person that believes in Sirius (especially given the x-con
status of Snape) the majority of people will believe what Sirius
accuses Snape of being with denial for Snape's rebuttal. But if you
allow for a guilty Sirius, not knowing the total background of this
character that has a whole lot of back history (undisclosed by the
author) to be the guilty party, then Snape's accusations become
phenomenal. When Snape turned over a new leaf he did it with the
utmost sincerity but there still remains to be only one person who
has true belief; Dumbledore. Why, because we (the readers) have not
been told the circumstances in which Dumbledore accepts Snape to the
degree of offering him a position as professor at the school almost
immediately after Snape's confession to Dumbledore and defiantly
before GH.
James even knew about the accusations of Sirius by Snape: Snape
saying to Harry in the Shrieking Shack that he was as arrogant as his
father to believe in Sirius. Sirius must have been pretty good to
pull the wool over so many eyes (US, the readers) along with not only
James but also Lily.
Why would Sirius have done this to his best friend, his brother? We
(readers) haven't been privy to that information yet
many, many
theories could be introduced as to the why could or would Sirius have
ever have done such a thing when we know via JKR that his redemption
quality was his love for James and Harry? Well the word redemption is
a big clue. Redemption is to change your ways
to understand and
attempt to fix the error of your ways. Sirius had twelve years to sit
on ice and think of what he had done. Redemption at the hand of
freedom was to seek out Pettigrew, who he faulted for his
imprisonment, but what he found was his best friend in his best
friend's son, staring him in the face. Innocent and alive was his
best friend again. How scary is that or how redemptive?
These are a few questions that Sirius supporters, myself included,
may ask:
(1) How could Sirius have been the bad guy when he didn't know
about the dark mark on the arm in the cave in GOF?
(2) How could Sirius have done something like this to his best
friend?
(3) How could Sirius have held such contempt for his younger
brother if he were on the dark side?
(4) Why would Sirius have left his home if his priorities
differed from his parents?
(5) Why was Sirius a Gryffindor when his family portrayed
Slytherin?
My rebuttal for these questions would be:
(1) Not knowing about the dark mark on the arm was sheer
brilliance.
(2) How could you do this to your best friend is totally up for
theorizing but there could be many.
(3) How could little brother be viewed so badly when he was
apparently attempting escape from what he knew was wrong, simple;
Sirius viewed him as a coward.
(4) The last question is very plain; Sirius thought his parents
were full of hot air along with his brother and left to observe the
opposition, inside info that could be used against them.
(5) This one is questionable but I have a few idea's like why was
Tom Riddle in Slytherin
In closing I would like to admit that I am devastated by my own post
because Sirius is the one character, even though I try to stay
detached so I can see more clearly, whom I totally fell for. I can,
however, put aside Harry's and my desire to fall for the parent he
never had and admit that Sirius may not be what he/we thought. The
flip/flop from the devious minded Sirius to the have to make things
up redemptive Sirius could allow for anyone to make an indecisive
decision.
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