[HPforGrownups] Re: CHAPTER DISCUSSION: Chapter 28, Snape's worst memory

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 115777


Kathy:
> >
> I think that Dumbledore has some kind of plan requiring Harry
> > to be further exposed to the mind of Voldemort, which would
> explain his
> > "look of triumph".  I also think that Snape disapproves, cannot
> just
> > refuse Dumbledore, and has used a very successful reason to
> prevent the
> > continuation of the occlumency lessons.  It worked and Dumbledore
> bought
> > it.  I think the lessons were making Harry worse.

Alla:
>
> I strongly disagree. Dumbledore definitely has some kind of a plan,
> since he mentioned this plan several times in his last speech in
> OOP, but I don't think that exposing Harry's mind further to
> Voldemort was ever part of the plan. Protecting Harry from
> Voldemort - Yes. Exposing further - I don't think so.
>
>
>
> I think that Dumbledore genuinely wanted to protect Harry,albeit
> unsuccesfully, because he put such task on Snape's shoulders, due to
> having too much faith in Snape's "latent good qualities".



Kathy:
         You could certainly be absolutely correct.  It is all very 
ambiguous.  I find it interesting,      
     however, that in GoF Dumbledore was pleased that Harry had become, 
perhaps, even more
     closely connected to V when his blood was used in the potion.  If 
DD was only out for the
     care and protection of Harry, he should have looked worried instead 
of  triumphant.  He
     obviously considers this to have placed him in a better position 
which he intends to use.

      In OotP Dumbledore states that he recognized the scar when Harry 
was a baby as a possible
      connection.  Dumbledore has been intending to make use of this fact 
for 15 years.  I think
      that this is why he said that he made an old man's error in 
becoming too attached to Harry
      and trying to protect him, knowing that he can not do that if he 
is to use Harry to defeat V.

      After the snake attack on Mr. Weasley, the first thing DD did was 
check some instrument,
      which showed one smokey snake coming out and then splitting in 
two.  DD  asked "in essence
      divided".  His main interest is the connection between Harry and 
V.  and I think that
      connection has to be encouraged to allow V to be defeated.

      DD also knew enough about what was going on with Harry that he 
refused to meet with him,
      look at him or make eye contact with him to protect himself from V.

      Dumbledore doesn't mind using people, choosing Snape to teach Harry 
occlumency, knowing
      that V could  enter his mind during the lesson.  If Snape is a 
spy, his cover would be shot.

      I felt that, like other posts, Snape staged the worst memory 
tantrum.  The most logical reason 
      for doing this would be to force a stop to the occlumency 
lessons.  If Snape disapproved of
      what Dumbledor was doing, it would be the most Slytherin way to 
put a stop to it.

      They all seem like such nice, mild, supportive, lovable people, 
that perhaps I just have a nasty
      suspicious mind.

      Kathy
      P.S.  Thanks for the discussion