Snape and Magic Dishwasher. Was: Re: DD and the rat:

[Nora Renka]

No: HPFGUIDX 115968


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bluesqueak" <pipdowns at e...> 
wrote:

<massive snip of material that's still really interesting>
 
> Nora:
>> I need to work through the PoA timeline again to place one 
>> comment, but that's going to take more thought than I have to 
>> spare at the moment...you all understand... :)
>  
> 
> I know that feeling. Well do I know that feeling, especially in the 
> last few months {grin}.

I have it--and I've satisfied myself.  Back over the summer (ah, to 
be back in the summer, when I had more fun things to do and posted 
almost nothing...not that I don't love you guys too...), I posted 
about the end of PoA (note 107020).  Pippin posted an alternative and 
correction in 112842, but...

As I re-examine it, my possibility is still eminently open, because 
of Fudge's comments: "...and once young Harry's back in his right 
mind, I expect he'll want to tell the Prophet exactly how you saved 
him..."  This is heard when the kids have roughly five or so minutes 
left--it's hard to tell, true, about when things happen between the 
markers of 10 minutes left and 3 minutes left, because we have no 
indication in the middle, we have no indication of how much time it 
takes them to run places, none of that.  But it seems to me, then 
that the infamous Snape comment I referred to probably *does* come 
after Snape and Fudge have been evicted from the Hospital Wing.  The 
two of them are evicted, TTed!Harry and Hermione hear their comments, 
wait just long enough so that they have their conversation with 
Dumbledore, and slip back into the room.  If it were to have happened 
before, Fudge's comments don't make sense--he seems to be referring 
to the Raving!Harry, not an Asleep!Harry.

Either one is possible.  And it doesn't affect MD, right--his nasty 
comments to Fudge are just 'playing a role' in MD, if I remember 
correctly.  However, if you take my timeline, we have Snape who does 
the professional thing by taking Black in, gets very annoyed at his 
boss when the expected 'Yeah, execution time' doesn't materialize, 
encourages Fudge, gets bamboozled by his boss for screwing around, 
and flips out--although he must pick up on the "I'll tell you about 
it later" clues.

The timeline doesn't provide enough specificity to go one way or the 
other, but I'll stand by my reading of Fudge's comments being meant 
to let us, the readers, know that Fudge has *heard* what Harry said, 
and thinks he's a raving loony at the moment.  (I also can't make out 
any good reason why DD would ever want to reinforce the 'Harry 
Potter=teller of insane stories' idea to Fudge, which also makes me 
think that's Snape acting on his own.)

-Nora gets back to marking off points of imitation and tonal types