What JKR Finds Important
dumbledore11214
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Wed Oct 20 01:34:57 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 116003
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delwynmarch"
<delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
>
>
> It's in fact *since* OoP that I don't care much about Harry
anymore. I
> never really related to him before, but I did get upset whenever
> something bad happened to him and I did want him to be happy. But
in
> OoP, I couldn't care less.
>
> Ron and Hermione, OTOH, only grew in my eyes through OoP. First of
all
> because they remained so steadfastly loyal to Harry no matter how
> badly he treated them. And also because they seemed to handle their
> own private lives quite well, unlike someone else. (And yes I know,
> their lives were nowhere as hard or complicated as someone else's
> life. Don't bite :-)
Alla:
Well, believe it or not, Ron and Hermione also grew in my eyes threw
OOP precisely because of their loyalty to Harry.
But, I want to say something else which related to our other
discussion (envvious Ron v jealous Ron). I thought that would be a
good place.
I am taking my words back partially - I could not find Ron actively
wishing Harry ill in GoF. The most I found was when "Ron was not
laughing but was not sticking up for Harry either", when Malfoy came
up with 'Potter stinks badges"
Why I mentioning it in this post? Because I found plenty of quotes,
showing how badly hurt Harry was by Ron's rejection. Harry did
NOTHING, absolutely nothing to deserve it, IMO.
"He wrenched the hangings shut around his four-poster, leaving Harry
standing there by the door, staring at the dark red velvet curtains,
now hiding one of the few people he had been sure would believe
him" - GoF, paperback, p.287.
"Great," said Harry bitterly. "Really great. tell him from me I'll
swap any time he wants. tell him from me he's welcome to it...
People gawping at my forehead everywhere I go..." _GoF, p.290.
"The next few days were some of Harry's worst at Hogwarts. The
closest he had ever come to feeling like this had been during those
months, in his second year, when a large part of the school had
suspected him of attacking his fellow students. But Ron had been on
his side then. He thought he could have coped with the rest of
school's behaviour, if he could have just have Ron's back as his
friend..." - p.296.
I think again that Rowling is very very good in using "carmic
payback" technique in the books.
Ron also did not do anything to deserve Harry's anger, but I guess
it was his turn in OOP and I think he showed his maturity by
patriently listening to Harry running his mouth at him and still
defeding him from unbelieveing classmates
> Del replies :
> I guess one of my problems is that it came at a completely wrong
time
> *in my idea*. I was truly expecting Harry to blow up in one of the
> first books, but no, he just swallowed it all like it was nothing.
He
> seemed to be the epitome of the resilient kid that nothing can
truly
> disturb. And then suddenly, in OoP, he blows up at the slighest
> offence, real or imaginary. He had always held himself up very
nicely,
> but then suddenly everyone has to suffer for his own problems. You
> see, I'm not at all like Harry, so to me, all of this seemed either
> forced on the part of JKR or self-indulging on the part of Harry.
> Either way, it jerked me out of the story, and cut me off from
Harry.
>
Alla:
As I said, I also expected Harry to blow up earlier, but every
person reacts to abuse differently and with the year Harry had, I
think he was coping pretty well, actually. :o)
My sympathy for him grew up tremendously after OOP.
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