David
antoshachekhonte
antoshachekhonte at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 20 02:12:57 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 116008
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, annegirl11 at j... wrote:
> Hans epistled:
> > Revelation 22:16. I Jesus [...] am the root and the offspring of
> > David, the Bright morning star.
> > Who's the bright morning star? SIRIUS! And who were Sirius' friends?
> JAMES Potter, Remus JOHN Lupin, PETER Pettigrew. Who were Jesus'
> disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane?
> > James, John and Peter!
>
> Dude. That's like... trippy.
>
> So will Sirius will be killed yet rise again on the third ... something?
> Day? Third day in God-time (if you follow the "7 days is metaphorical for
> millions of years" creationist apology)? Third time someone tries to
> invoke the veil?
>
> I'm having a huge WTF moment:
>
> 1. In Dogma (a very well-researched movie), Lucifer is referrred to as
> "the morning star." I mostly slept through sunday school from ages 10-17,
> so if one of you people who stayed awake and did your communion homework
> could remind me what the heck that could mean in regards to Sirius?
> 2. When we were talking about the Potters and Voldemort, that "denies
> three times" thing kept jumping out at me. So, what's Peter and denying
> three times got to do with the Potters denying Voldemort three times? Was
> Voldie just jealous that he wasn't being denied, too?
>
> > Who denied Jesus? Peter. Who betrayed Sirius and had him imprisoned?
> > Peter!
>
> So he's got one more big betrayal to go.
>
> > Doesn't this prove that Harry Potter is not only very similar to
> > the Alchemical Wedding, but also to the New Testament?
>
> No. It doesn't. At all. It proves that Jo MAY have used some
> so-common-it's-part-of-the-secular-culture religious imagry for a bunch
> of friends. Or, more likely, that she gave two of her chracters very
> common names and gave a character with an unusual name a very common
> middle name. And she gave a big shaggy dog the name of the dogstar. She
> isn't Chris Carter or Kevin Smith. She isn't basing her entire series on
> the Bible.
>
> Aura
Antosha:
Unfortunately for the very interesting theory here, the bright morning star cited in
Revelations would be Lucifer, aka Venus. Sirius is indeed the brightest non-planet in the
heavens, but it's not as bright as any of the visible planets, and, like all of the stars in the
sky except for Polaris, rises and sets at different times during the night. It's only visible in
the morning sky at specific times of year. So I don't think that particular biblical parallel
works.
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