Killing Pettigrew: Yea or Nay?
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Oct 21 19:26:16 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 116145
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ericoppen"
<oppen at m...> wrote:
> In the old days, public executions were popular spectator
sights, and corporal punishment was the norm in schools, the
armed services, and (on an informal basis) on the job---mouth
off to your supervisor in the factory and you'd be spitting out
teeth, no error. In their cultural isolation, the poor Wizards have
not realized that Risk is Wrong, nor that Revenge is Always
Wrong---they're still in the "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"
stage of things. <
Pippin:
It seems public executions are not a common spectator sight for
children in the WW at present, since few in Harry's fifth year class
can see the thestrals.
It's a theme carried through the book, beginning with Snape's
threat to poison Neville's toad, that violent death is not a fit
sight for children's eyes -- or indeed for anyone's unless it
cannot be avoided.
Sirius does know that revenge is always wrong, and that
informal justice is not just -- he says that Moody always brought
people in alive where possible and that not to do so would have
brought him down to the level of the Death Eaters. He's also very
bitter about not having had a trial.
Dumbledore also says that James wouldn't have wanted Peter
killed, which is as good as JKR saying "You may think Peter
deserved to die, but take it from me, there's more coming."
Sirius is obviously unbalanced, but barring ESE!Lupin, I'm as
mystified as anyone that Lupin wanted to execute Peter. Even if
there was a trial and Peter got off, why should he think that Peter
was going to run off and rejoin Voldemort? Sirius himself says
that it was unlikely to happen unless there were signs that
Voldemort was stirring again.
Here's something else that bothers me. At the beginning of GoF,
Peter tries to persuade Voldebabe that he should be allowed to
go fetch another wizard, and Voldebabe thinks this is a plan to
desert him. But that is very strange.
Voldebabe is very weak, so weak that he cannot survive in that
form more than a few hours without feeding. Surely all Wormtail
would have to do is wait, and within a few hours Voldebabe
would be too weak to hold a wand. What, or who, compels
Wormtail to stay?
Voldemort says later on in the graveyard that Wormtail returned
to him only out of fear of his old friends. Yet it seems Wormtail
thinks he could have left, if only Voldemort gave him permission.
Why, if his old friends are hunting him...they wouldn't care if he
had Voldie's permission, right?
Pippin
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