Harry

snow15145 snow15145 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 23 03:05:24 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 116271


Kneasy snipped:

I'm not a fan of assigning RW psychological theories of cause and
effect to fictional characters; it's a losers game IMO. 

Snow:
Have to disagree! There is a bit more to it than that.
There is one simulation to real life that can't be ignored (imo); 
this is the fact that people aren't always who they first appear to 
be. Heaven knows that Quirrel, Lockhart, Sirius at first (still 
questionable), Snape (again could be questionable) and Moody weren't. 
There are many more to come that appear to be something or someone 
they are not. The books are filled with these types of people, why 
stop now? I'm sure the author herself has attributed her own "real 
life" views in her dialogue to believe in someone only to find that 
they are not what they appeared to be. I suspect that we all have 
encountered this type of misplaced trust especially given the age and 
stage of Harry's life and circumstances. "Real life" is a 
contributing factor in writing. This isn't even my belief but that of 
the author when she mentions that Hermione is a formal portrayal of 
herself and that Harry depicts her later self. Bravery, like Harry's, 
appears to be something she had been pushed to learn in her own life. 
Ron, although not intentionally, has been described somewhat like a 
former best friend to JKR and also a best friend to Harry. The Mirror 
of Erised has been an emotional desire of the author to see her own 
mother one last time and the dementors appear to be based on the soul 
sucking of happiness in her own life. Can we assume that real life 
situations have had an effect on the Potter series, yes! (at least to 
me) The story itself was not created by the author's circumstances 
but those circumstances are inevitably intertwined into the story as 
much as her religious beliefs. Is this a story of the author's life, 
no, but her emotions, beliefs are evitable in its background. JKR has 
stated that this is her story to write and she will not change for 
anyone else's satisfaction. The ending must be her ending
even how 
she perceives Harry to see or not see, what appears to be evitable to 
us as readers at the time, will become clear in due time to Harry. 
Isn't it always easier for someone else to detect the mistakes that 
they see you are making, but you still make them because it is your 
life, your choices. Harry may not see everything clearly yet, but
he 
will. Just as JKR realized that it was best to leave the father of 
her baby and move on to the unknown
 in the face of adversity to 
overcome and succeed to the phenomenal conclusion. I have very little 
doubt that her series will fail us. Her own real life circumstances 
have had tremendous influence on her books that has caused so many to 
not only to read them but also to become involved in them to such an 
unprecedented degree. Should "real life" be submitted for study in 
the Potter series, yes, as it pertains to the author. 
  
Kneasy snipped:


For action is Harry's forte.
Whenever there's a new development, generally speaking Harry's first
response is to *do* something. Any advice to the contrary is unwelcome
and usually over-ridden or ignored.
Sadly, although action is what he's good at, fitting the right action
to the circumstances is a bit iffy. Not only does he leap into action,
he usually jumps to conclusions too. Wrong ones. It's a gift, a law of
nature, like toast always falling butter-side down. It all adds to the
entertainment immensely - but detracts from the suspense. You just
*know* he's got hold of the wrong end of the stick and somebody'll
suffer because of it. It's just a question of finding out who.

Snow:
There are two words I would use to describe Harry, gullible and 
naïve. Both of these traits can defiantly cause danger to himself and 
others. There is hope though! Harry didn't want Neville, Ginny or 
Luna to go with him to save Sirius because he, again, misjudged 
people for who they are but learned differently. This may be the 
beginning of Harry's understanding that people are not always what he 
perceived them to be.  

Kneasy snipped:

And the stakes rise with each book.
Escalation, it's called. Those at risk, then those who die, get closer
to Harry as the series progresses.
Quirrell!Mort cops it in the neck in PS/SS. No big deal - he's a 
baddy.
Argh! Ginny's in trouble in CoS, but it's Tom that's crunched. Phew!
Just another baddy, thank heavens.
Oh no! Sadlymisunderstood!Sirius in PoA is due for a snogging session
with a Dementor! But it's OK, he escapes at the last minute.
GoF, Cedric - a sort of friend, not close, dies - leaving behind a 
girl
Harry quite fancies. It's not all bad news, then.
OoP - Sirius - someone *very* close - dies. *Gulp*

What, or rather who, is next?
Dear, oh dear. Can Ron, Hermione or DD be far behind?
Or will it be multiples next time?

Snow:
You just named all of Harry's mentors! 
Ron for someone so young has intuition to teach Harry, Hermione has 
the book-learned knowledge and Dumbledore has the answers (if he 
would just tell him). These are Harry's teachers. Harry can't lose 
any of them, at least yet. I'm certain Harry will break away from 
these mentors when he has learned what they have to teach but not 
until he has learned the realization that everyone is not who they 
appear to be.

Snow  









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