Umbridge,Quidditch, and the Wizarding World

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 116443


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant9998"
<eggplant9998 at y...> wrote:
 
> martyb1130 at a... wrote:
> 
> > Do the muggles know that there is
> > a wizarding world or not 


> Eggplant:
>
> I believe that at the very apex of the muggle world, Queens, Prime 
> Ministers, Presidents, they do indeed know that the Wizarding world 
> exists; but all the other common everyday muggles don't have a clue 
> about magic. 
> 
> Eggplant

bboyminn:

I think you are right. I've even started laying out a fan fiction in
which Harry & Ron meet Harry & William (also Ginny&Hermione meet the
royals). Let's remember that in ancient times, especially before the
Church came into play, wizards served as advisors to kings and queens,
and generally held a positive position in society. 

I think initially what drove wizard persecution and what eventually
drove wizards underground was the Church. Remember that in the
beginning, the organized church was far more interest in power,
wealth, and influence than in saving any souls. By pushing wizards out
and demonizing them, the church was able to solidify it own influence
over kings and emperors.

The thing I wonder about, is how Slytherin-ish muggles have been
restrained from trying to use magical power to solidify their own
power and wealth. Perhaps it's just that fact that the wizard world
can make any uncooperative muggle forget what he knows that keeps the
muggle world safe.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn (was bboy_mn)