Why Occlumency lessons failed?

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 26 09:49:34 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 116450



> "kgpopp":
> 1) Snape told Harry not be so open with his emotions and that for 
the 
> occlumency to work he had to clear his head.  Maybe Snape made 
Harry 
> mad to test his ability not just to torture him  (I'm not say Snape 
> didn't enjoy getting in a few jabs).   But if Harry could endure 
> taunts from Snape, wouldn't he be more likely to ignore taunts from 
> Voldemort?   Yes Snape is a jerk, but Voldemort killed Harry's 
> parents, and framed Hagrid and tried to kill him.  I think 
Voldemort 
> would be apt to invoke much stronger feelings of hate from 
Harry.    Not 
> saying this was tough love but maybe more the boot camp approach of 
> tough knocks.

Finwitch:

Hmm.. Snape may have told Harry to calm down, but I don't know anyone 
who can do that on command! Not that Harry knows how to calm himself 
down anyway - except outside where he can go flying on his 
Firebolt... and I'm not all that certain that lack of emotion would 
help Harry, even if it helps Snape to do that. At any rate, Snape was 
being self-contradictory, telling Harry to calm down AND irritate him 
at the same time. Sign of a lowsy teacher, that.

-snip point 2).
 
kgpopp: 
> 3) As DD says at the end he thought it would be dangerous to open 
> Harry's mind to Voldemort in his presence so 
 I'm not sure DD can 
> give the lessons.   Not sure who else is a candidate.

Finwitch:

And Opening Harry's mind to Voldemort near Snape wasn't? I can think 
of a few candidates who may know Legilimency/Occlumency.

Mr Ollivander. HOW else would he have known who Harry was? And all 
that talk of his eyes... shining like Moons. Dumbledore's eyes also 
have certain *gleam* or *twinkle* to them... certain *light* that 
went off when he had left Harry... (Haven't checked if there's any 
LIGHT in Snape's eyes, but oh well...)

And, quite possibly, Aberforth. (He may have used Legilimency to get 
trough Hogwarts...)

Finwitch







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