How much do the DE kids know? (was Crabbe as potential job applicant)

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 116740



> Pippin replied:
> 
> If you want to give yourself a headache, just try to figure out 
which secrets Dumbledore is keeping from Voldemort, as 
opposed to which ones he is *pretending* to keep from 
Voldemort. The occlumency lessons are bound to be in the 
second category, since the Dark Lord would know if he was 
being blocked. I imagine Voldie had his own reasons for wanting 
the lessons to take place.
> 
> " You are to rid your mind of all emotion every night before
 sleep--empty it, make it blank and calm, you understand? [...]
 And be warned, Potter...*I shall know * if you have not 
practiced..."
> (emphasis mine)
> 
> 
> Dungrollin again:
> 
> Hang on hang on hang on... 
> "I shall know if you have *not* practiced..."
> (change of emphasis mine)
> 
> That doesn't mean he should automatically know when Harry 
is  blocking him.  "Shutting down the thoughts and feelings that 
contradict the lie..." (or something like that) doesn't mean 
sticking up a big pink neon flag saying `I'm not telling you
the whole story'.  That would rather defeat the object of the
exercise, wouldn't it?<

Pippin again:

Snape is not trying to bring Harry to the level of skill Snape has, 
which enables him to selectively block. His task is much 
simpler, "He wishes me to teach you how to close your mind to 
the Dark Lord."  Harry is instructed to empty his mind of *all* 
emotions, not just those he doesn't want the Dark Lord to 
perceive. There is no attampt during the lessons to teach Harry 
to be selective -- Snape just tells him to block any way he can.

 Dungrollin: 
> Point me to the canon that suggests a Legilimens can *tell* 
he's (or she's) trying to read the mind of an Occlumens.
> 
> Or perhaps this is yet another conspiracy theory I'm currently 
> unaware of... Am I in need of elucidation, or enlightenment?

Pippin:

No, at least I don't think so<g>...my thought was that surely 
Voldemort will notice, just as Snape will, if it becomes more 
difficult to access Harry's mind.

Pippin