No: HPFGUIDX 111831 One final word on this. Remember we are talking about the WW here, not the modern day Muggle world. The WW does many things according to "the old ways". And I like that. Apparently so does JKR and many others. (Ah, the good old days... when you could hang someone by up their toes... opps.. no. I didn't say that.) Tonks_op