Conspiracies and re-assessments
quigonginger
quigonginger at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 2 14:35:20 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111889
> Pippin:
> ::blinks:: IMO, grayness was studying illegal magic and leading a
> werewolf through a populated area for kicks. Evil is holding
> someone against their will and threatening to strip them naked
> in public. Does evil have to be wearing a robe and a hood before
> we recognize it?
Ginger ponders:
Wow, this is one of those areas where I don't think there will ever
be a consensus drawn. We all bring in our pasts and experiences.
Personally, I don't think James and Sirius were any worse than the
kids I grew up with. I knew plenty of guys who got "pantsed" on the
schoolyard. I never got "pantsed" myself, but I did get "bra-ed".
Then there was that little incident with the faminine product stolen
out of the girls' room trash and thrown from guy to guy around the
classroom as they announced to whom it belonged. That's what you get
for being "first".
If these were the worst things that happened in my life, I'd be a
happy duck. Or maybe I'd obsess on them because nothing else worse
had happened to make me realize how trivial they were. As is, they
make amusing stories to tell when rehashing the "good old days".
So does this make the people who did this "evil"? Not in my mind.
Immature, tactless, vulgar, insensitive... sure. None of them grew
up to be evil. That's why I have a hard time labeling J&S as "evil"
based on the Penseive scene. Schoolyard brats, certainly. Evil, to
me, means a deeper lack of moral concern. I think that had they
continued on in this fashion they could have become evil. They were
showing a definate lack of compassion towards Snape, which, had they
continued to treat others with that same lack of compassion, could
have lead to a downward spiral.
I guess the gist of what I'm saying is that if I label J&S as "evil",
then I have to label the RL people I know who did the same things
as "evil" as well. I can't do that, because I know they are not.
Anyone who may have a different definition of "evil" is most
certainly entitled to consider them as such, but for me, they fall
short.
As I said, I don't think this is an area on which we (meaning the
list) will ever agree. Such is the case with relative terms. But it
does make for interesting discussion.
Ginger, feeling the dormant psych minor rising as she waits to read
both sides of this issue.
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