Conspiracies and re-assessments
backstagemystic
idcre at imap2.asu.edu
Fri Sep 3 07:36:15 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 111951
>>> Valky:
>>>[snip]JKR on Snape: (Paraphrase) You shouldn't like him _too_
much.....<<<
Charme:
>>Oh, I am SO glad you posted what you did, Valky. :)<<
>>Nope, you definitely shouldn't like him too much. <<
BM:
For what it's worth, JKR's actual quote is: "You shouldn't think
he's TOO nice."
Charme:
>>It's rather like "poor Snape, look how hard his life was" as an
excuse for how he later turned out to be a DE, and now supposedly is
reformed? While I love the complexity of Snape's character, I am not
fooled by him: he's in it all for himself, unless he does something
noble to convince me otherwise. As is Peter Pettigrew.<<
BM:
I don't think we have enough information to say either way at this
point. Snape may very well be in it all for himself (and JKR is
certainly hinting that we're going to find-out more things of an
unsavory nature about him).
Yet, I also have to question why he has taken such great personal
risks to whatever end? Spying for Dumbledore in the past, and
whatever he is doing now to find-out what Voldemort is telling his
DE's doesn't strike me as the best way for him to go about ensuring
his own personal safety and well-being, is it?
Then there's still the unanswered issue of just WHY Dumbledore so
strongly trusts Snape.
Charme:
>>The whole argument about James being entranced by the "dark arts"
and or being a putz because of a single Pensieve memory,
is "reaching," IMO. <<
BM:
I don't believe James was entranced by the Dark Arts, but it seems
his less-than-flattering reputation was well-deserved at that point.
Charme:
>>Everybody does things when they are young which they regret, and
that doesn't make them evil. <<
BM:
Do you think Snape has any such regrets? How young was he when he
became a Death Eater? How young was he when he left? What were his
motives in both cases? Does he have any mindset for repentance, or is
it all just an act? Or is it more grey as opposed to black and white?
Charme:
>>I might remind people who might think otherwise that there are
specific items in that memory that you have to wonder how Snape knew,
like the L.E. James drew, the Marauder's conversation, and several
other intriguing details which should make you go, "HUH? How did
SNAPE know THAT?" Let's face it, Snapey Poo sure looks like the nosey
cur Sirius said he was if you look at it from that perspective.<<
BM:
I'm not saying Snape wasn't nosey, but I'm not sure that this isn't a
case of the nature of the Pensieve itself.
When we saw Dumbledore's memory of Karkaroff's trial in thePensieve,
I believe there were facial expressions of Moody (who was sitting
behind DD) that I doubt DD could have seen...yet Harry sees them just
fine in the Pensieve.
Maybe it's a case of our senses picking up more than our conscious
mind is aware, and it's stored in the subconscious and that's why the
Pensieve can give a more omniscient (or at least a more panoramic)
view of events.
We can also look at other evidence, such as the way Lily confronts
James and what she has to say about James in general. Obviously, by
her tongue-lashing of James, this particular incident involving Snape
isn't an isolated incident of James acting out of line without
provocation. He's infamous for it at school.
This in turn is confirmed by Remus and Sirius when Harry later asks
them about what he saw in Snape's memory...there was no denial of the
events on their part (though Sirius gave his rationalization for
James' behaviour, Remus was quiet on that aspect.).
BM
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