life and the prophecy

[Sandra]

No: HPFGUIDX 111994

Mirodunum wrote
> The prophecy (in OotP) has been bothering me:
> 
> (a) if "neither can live while the other survives", what does that 
> imply? As far as we know, Harry is alive and will be until at least 
> Book 7.  Voldemort got his  body back at the end of book 4; so 
> they'll both be alive for two or three years, no?
> 
> We gather from Voldemort that he's done something towards making 
> himself immortal: how far has he gone down this line?  

I think this is a very interesting question and although I was not 
able to follow all the threads here lately, I think it has not been 
discussed fully. Even more astounding after JKR directly pointing us 
to this, as a crucial mystery to solve...

...neither can live while the other survives...

assuming Harry lives then it follows that Voldemort has NOT survived
or 
Harry does NOT live or has NOT survived, while LV lives

or both are in an intermediate state 
very intriguing

I could have believed LV not being alive until the end of GoF but 
now? To me it seems they both are alive...
So far death has not been covered extensively in the books, yes we 
have the ghosts, the veil, the priory incantatem echoes and the 
statement that no magic can bring someone death back to life. Do we 
really now what the wizarding world thinks about death?
It seems pretty much as taboo as in RL.

Snape's stopper to death is something else (and another thread).
But what did LV do to prevent is death? As it seemed not as powerful, 
as the elixir of life, yet powerful enough to prevent his ultimate 
death.

And what is Harry's connection to death? He is entranced by the
veil, both his parents are dead, he has seen Cedric's death and
now Sirius'. 
Maybe the AK on baby Harry not just simply rebounded,
but gave him a near death experience and he is actually now not fully 
alive.

And LV, is he truly alive with "flesh, blood and bone" or, as
someone else has mentioned here, is he missing the `soul 'bit
and hence not `alive'?

More questions than answers I know, but there are so many clever 
people around here, who for sure will enlighten me!

Sandra