[HPforGrownups] LV's survival

[sp. sot.]

No: HPFGUIDX 112059




--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Anita Hillin <akhillin at y...> 
wrote:
> [snip]
> James died because he fought. Lily could have done the same but 
didn't. It just might be that fighting is not enough; a totally 
unambiguous sacrifice is needed to trigger the spell - unarmed, 
unresisting, voluntary. 
> 
> [more snips, then Kneasy goes on to quote canon from OOTP]:
> 
> 
> "And so I made my decision. You would be protected by an ancient 
magic of which *he knows, which he despises,* [akh emphasis]and which 
he has always, therefore, underestimated -  to  his cost. I am 
speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you." 
> 
> 
> akh: This triggered the synapses, connecting JKR's comment at the 
Edinburgh appearance, where she said we should be asking why 
Voldemort didn't die at GH.  Perhaps DD is saying LV knows about this 
specific magic; in other words, his mother deliberately did not save 
her own life, thereby saving her son's.  LV may have a version of the 
same "ancient magic," and his mother's sacrifice is what has kept him 
alive.  Because of his experience in the orphanage and his more 
negative nature coupled with what must be an enormous ego (I believe 
in nature+nurture+choices, but we'll save that for another time), he 
doesn't see his mother's sacrifice as noble.



dcgmck then said
Wow!  So you're suggesting that TR's mother laid a similar protective 
charm on her young son's life before she died?  But doesn't that mean 
that someone must have intentionally taken her life as well?  At 
least, that's how C.S. Lewis sets it up in "The Lion, the Witch, and 
the Wardrobe" and what DD seems to be saying to HP.  Yet while LV 
blames his father for abandoning him before he was even born, there 
is no suggestion that any attempts were made to kill his mother.  

I note that you say " a version" of the same ancient magic, but it 
does seem that sacrifice is an integral ingredient.  Please explain 
further.




Griffin782002 now:

I posted recently a thought about L.V.'s mother that obviously didn't cared much about Slytherin's beliefs. I made now some further thoughts. First, L.V. as we now from J.K.R. never loved anyone and we all know that he blames all the time his Muggle father for his mother's death. But, if I am not wrong, he never says something nasty for his mother. Well, I don't want to say that he loves, probably he just respects her as a witch from Slytherin's bloodline. 

Now my thuoght. When Harry first looked in the mirror of Erised he saw his parents. I don't know if J.K.R. has said anything about this mirror reappearing in the next H.P. books, but what if in the end as H.P. and L.V. are fighting, they find out that the mirror happens to be there and accidentally L.V. has a look in it. I don't think he looked in the mirror by himself before, only Quirrell did, suddenly sees his mother playing with a young child, himself if he had grown up as a normal child and suddenly feels love. Well, he is affraid of this feeling, os I believe if this happen will certainly drive him mad.

Well, what do you think?

Griffin782002      




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