Why Voldemort Would Have Spared Lily

karen_lvssr klevasseur at earthlink.net
Sun Sep 5 14:10:00 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112123


> Karen L.:
> >>She pleads with said Dark wizard for the life of her son, not
> wanting to see her child murdered in front of her, and ends up
> sacrificing herself. There is not enough time to really think,
> hmmm, if I sacrifice myself for my child, then he will be 
> protected from this dark wizard. I firmly believe the entire 
> episode is pure maternal instinct on Lily's part.<<
> 
> HunterGreen:
> I disagree. Her standing there in his way saying 'kill me 
> instead', when she knows for a fact that's not going to happen 
> (rather than running to get her wand, or trying to stop him 
> physically) seems less like a maternal instinct and more like a
> specific plan to me. They knew Voldemort was after Harry, they 
> knew at any moment he could somehow get to them, I doubt she 
> would be just leaving her wand out of eyeshot in this situation. 
> Remember they had only been in hiding a *week* when he found them, 
> not really enough time to get comfortable. Fighting would be 
> maternal instinct, standing there weakly trying to get the 
> murderer who is there *specifically* for your son to kill you 
> "instead" is just silly unless there's a reason behind it. That's 
> why I think that Dumbledore knew how Harry survived, it was 
> planned beforehand.


Karen L.
If they had a secret keeper whom they trusted, and had no 
reason to suspect that their location would have been known to 
LV, why wouldn't they have gotten at least a little comfortable?  
James obviously had his wand nearby, maybe that's all they 
thought they needed for protection.  Do we know that James and 
Lily knew about the prophecy?  I can't recall if they did or not, and 
cannot find it in any of the books.  I feel that DD used Lily's 
sacrifice to protect Harry, and that's why he ended up at the 
Dursleys'.  It was about a week after Harry's parents died that he 
was placed with the Dursleys.  If this had been preplanned, 
wouldn't he have gotten to the Dursley's sooner?  He was 
"unprotected" during that week that DD or whomever had him 
and was deciding where Harry should go.  Maybe that's when 
DD discovered that this particular magic would protect Harry, he 
did say it was old magic.  

Plus, Lily knows LV will kill Harry, watching your son die would 
be the worst torture he could have inflicted on Lily.  Her pleading
(and how you can say a mother pleading for their child's life is 
doing it weakly, you obviously have no idea) with him and not 
attacking him was her only way to "protect" Harry, she didn't have 
her wand and if she had tried to physically attack him he could 
have thrown her off and then killed Harry leaving her there with 
her dead son and husband.  She didn't have a choice, plus they 
had no idea he was coming, that's the reason he was able to get 
in.  If DD had any idea that LV was going to get to GH and kill the 
Potter's, don't you think he would have surrounded the house 
with more security?  I firmly believe it was not planned, but DD 
used his knowledge of old magic to protect Harry after the fact, by 
sealing the magic by putting Harry with a blood relative.  






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