[HPforGrownups] Some Questions about the Scar and CoS
James Lawlor
jlawlor at gmail.com
Sun Sep 5 19:26:08 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112138
Meri::
> I have just finished a reread of CoS and something started niggling
> at me. Why is it that during the scenes down in the actual Chamber
> of Secrets Harry's scar never bothered him? In SS Vapo!Mort made
> Harry's scar burn from across a room, in GoF and OotP Harry can feel
> LV from miles away, so why is it that when Harry is in close contact
> with Diary!Tom he doesn't feel anything? Shouldn't his head be
> splitting open from agony?
James:
I'd think perhaps because the Voldemort who he was talking with, in
addition to not being a real person, was not the Voldemort that gave
him the scar. I wonder his scar would hurt if Harry were to Timeturner
back to, say, shortly before he was born and run into Voldemort. But
of the two, I'd say it was mostly because Diary!Tom wasn't a real
person (if Harry were to see a portrait of LV, I doubt that would make
his scar hurt either).
Meri:
> Come to that, how did Diary!Tom know so much about his own future? I
> always assumed that Ginny told him about Harry's defeat of LV, but
> how did he know all that other stuff, like the fact that he became
> LV at all? Was Lucius Malfoy writing in Tom Riddle's diary,
> communicating with it somehow? Or did LV keep the journal longer
> than Tom implied (ie: long after he was sixteen)? If the diary
> hadn't been destroyed, what could it tell us about Tom and LV and
> the Malfoys and all that good stuff? Would there have been a way to
> make the diary tell the truth?
James:
I always assume that Ginny filled him in on what he didn't know. I
would expect it went something like this: Ginny starts writing about
all the little things going on in her life with going to Hogwarts, and
mentions Harry. Diary!Tom nonchalantly asks about Harry as part of
gaining Ginny's trust and mentions that Harry is famous for being the
Boy Who Lived etc etc. Diary!Tom is of course fascinated, learning
that his future self was defeated and asks for more information, and
Ginny tells him what she knows. That would amount to that LV was a
terrible dark wizard who's name is even feared to be spoken and was
the cause of many tragedies up until the year before she was born, and
that after being defeated by Harry he was still lurking around trying
to come back to power, able to posess Quirrel, etc. (Although come to
think of it, we don't actually know if anyone besides the Order and
H/R/Hr knows that Voldemort was posessing Quirrel).
Diary!Tom would be able to put this secondhand information together
with his own ideals and plans for the future and have a fairly solid
idea of what went on.
It could easily be that Lucius wrote in the Diary as well, which would
make some sense (not as Lucius-keeping-a-diary but
Lucius-communicating-with-memory-of-LV) but if Lucius was "filling in
the boss" so to speak, he would assumably have told Diary!Tom about
what LV became and LV's downfall and therefore Harry, but Tom
indicates that he found out about Harry from Ginny, so perhaps not.
- James Lawlor
jlawlor at gmail.com
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