Events at GH & How did WW know? (was Re: Why Voldemort Would Have Spared Lily)

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Mon Sep 6 03:04:41 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112153

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hannahmarder" 
<hannahmarder at y...> wrote:

> > (Quote) Karen L.

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> >It was about a week after Harry's parents died that he 
> > was placed with the Dursleys.  

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> Hannah: Sorry, I don't think that's supported by canon.  In PS/SS, 
> McGonagall says LV turned up at the Potters' 'last night.'(British 
> softback p14). So Harry is in fact being placed with the Dursley's 
> the night after the attack, not a week later.  

>Dumbledore knows where Harry is going almost as soon as he 
> hears of the attack - IMO, *before* the attack has even occurred 
> (see my earlier post on this).  Even if you don't subscribe to 
this 
> theory, cannon tells us Harry's guardians were chosen before he 
was 
> even removed from the wreckage of his former home.

I agree DD knew Harry would have to go to Petunia if, as all 
suspected/feared, LV ever came after him and released the 'old 
magic' protecting him. This could only happen at the expense of 
Lily's life - meaning that DD, James and Lily all knew Harry was a 
target (DD knew the prophecy and one assumes so did Lily although in 
scheming!DD theories he may just have persuaded her to protect Harry 
without giving details of just why he might be under threat and/or 
how real that threat actually was in all likelihood). 

I think Karen L. can be forgiven for having come away with the 
impression that there was a long time between GH and Privet Drive 
because ALL that day magical folk nationwide were celebrating. 

******** How did they know so quickly? ************

Did the DE's have some light at headquarters that burned all the 
time LV was powerful (alive) that went out (or something?). Stupid 
example I know. But, there must have been something to get people 
out of hiding from fear of him. Also, how is it that nobody knows LV 
came back a year ago in late OotP yet the WW knew the instant 
(inside a few hours) something had happened at GH? perhaps a 
thousand imperio victims were released at once, but surely this 
would not depend on just one, albeit very powerful, wizard?

Another thing about GH that doesn't make sense to me (perhaps 
someone has theories posted or to propose) is why there was 
screaming that Harry recalls (when dementors attack - or used to). 
When did Lily scream? - at the point of being Ak'd? I assume not - 
victims usually don't scream. It's most logical that she's screaming 
because her baby is under threat and/or being attacked, but if so 
even LV can't be so stupid as to think that saying 'stand aside you 
silly girl' (or whatever the words were) was likely to make her do 
so. Perhaps because he's callous enough to want (and be able, cold-
bloodedly) to zap a 1 year-old baby his understanding of a mother's 
feelings, for her baby over her own life, are equally psychopathic - 
that is, in his own values/belief system he cannot comprehend 
anybody wanting anything more than to preserve their own life ahead 
of anyone else's (Pettigrew would be in this mould) - that would 
be 'silly'. I always read it that he thought her silly to think she 
could stand up to him.





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