Screams of Pain

garybec garybec101 at comcast.net
Mon Sep 6 14:04:48 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112169

Becki is wondering;

During Priori Incantatem in the graveyard, it goes as follows; 
(and the parenthesis is my interpretation of what it is, feel free 
to correct me if I am wrong...)

 1. "Screams"   (LV crucio of Harry)

 2. "Wormtails Hand"   (Silver Hand given to Wormtail by LV)

 3. "Shouts of Pain"   (LV crucio of Wormtail)

 4. "Cedric" 

 5. "Screams of Pain"   (?)

 6. "Frank Bryce"

 7. "Bertha Jorkins"

 8. "Lily"

 9. "James"

 My questions are for numbers 5 and 7.

In #5, who are those screams of pain?  I have read GoF many times 
and in my quick go-over to research this question, I could not find 
anything.  My curiosity was sparked by another's post of why was 
there nothing in the PI referring to LV's AK on Harry?  If there is 
nothing in cannon describing what #5 screams were, perhaps it is a 
*flint* and #5 should be between Lily and Bertha, perhaps 
LV's "screams of pain".  He did describe the rebounding curse as 
being "pain beyond pain",  (GoF, 653, AM), why would screams not 
come out of the PI?

On to my other question, #7.  Shouldn't there be screams here?  
Before LV killed Bertha, he tortured her so badly that "her mind and 
body were both damaged beyond repair", (GoF, 655, AM).  (The 
word "torture"  came from Barty Jr. in Vertiaserum).
Unless he used another form of torture, but in cannon, there are 
only 3 unforgivable curses, I would think that any form of torture, 
especially one that could break through a very powerful memory 
charm, would be classified as unforgivable.

Becki (who is waiting for someone to give simple explanations for 
her pondering).





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