Christianity and HP
macfotuk at yahoo.com
macfotuk at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 7 00:18:42 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112202
I don't know if I should, as a lapsed catholic and probable present
time agnostic/atheist, be starting (or more likely continuing) a
thread on Christianity. Even if it's original (which I really doubt)
I'm somewhat loath to (re-)start a posting topic that could generate
controversy or else run and run for all the wrong reasons. Even so:
How is it that Hogwarts always celebrates Xmas? (see also
http://www.ad2000.com.au/articles/2002/apr2002p10_969.html) Jews
don't. Muslims don't. Why should wizards? especially when
historically the church saw wizardry as devilish? (Satan = opponent
of God the father of JC).
Of course in HP hallow'een also looms large (how could it not for
witches? - something significant always happens on Hallow'een (Harry
and Nevilles's conception as I've noted before, '*that* night' at
Godric's Hollow, NHN's bungled beheading, the troll in PS/SS, the
basilisk's first strike in CoS, Sirius' 1st attack at Hogwart's in
PoA, Harry's choosing by the GoF, though nothing obvious in OotP).
Although halloween has older roots as a solstice than as all
hallow's eve, the latter name definitely derives from the idea of
saints and a Jesus-based religiosity. Is JKR trying to signify that
Hogwarts works on 'good WASP traditions' like any English public
school (where pupils, Christian or otherwise, have to sing hymns and
celebrate Christian festivals like Easter, Xmas, Michaelmas etc, or
that wizards aren't as dark as all that because they 'do' Xmas, or
what?
There is a recent thread on JKR's beliefs (based on a mysterious
Canadian interview?) suggesting she is a Christian and that she said
if she stated what she actually believes then we would all know too
much about the ending. This is weighed against the attacks by deeply
Christian folk (whatever you want to name them) suggesting HP is too
wickedly heathen/dark and wizardry/magic generally is
unchristian/unholy.
Harry doesn't go to church that we see, nor Hermione nor anyone else
in HP yet it just seems to be assumed that Christianity is a theme
present but largely unspoken of/ignored - sad to say (for those who
are wholeheartedly Christian) rather like the prevailing view of the
majority of folk in the real world in the UK or much of the US at
least. Many profess to be Christian but do little that is in any way
religious in a Christian sense, like pray, attend mass, live their
lives with Christian values, or otherwise express what are supposed
to be firmly held and all pervasive beliefs (faith).
Any comments? (and PLEASE keep these in relation to the books/JKR's
WW and not about Christianity per se such as your own personal
views, strongly held or otherwise e.g. Jesus being the sole
salvation of humanity or entirely otherwise)
I note in passing that from the J.K.Rowling.com Edinburgh 2004
interview transcript:
Q: Does Harry have a godmother? If so, will she make an appearance
in future books?
A (by JKR): No, he doesn't. I have thought this through. If Sirius
had married
Sirius was too busy being a big rebel to get married.
When Harry was born, it was at the very height of Voldemort fever
last time so his christening was a very hurried, quiet affair with
just Sirius, just the best friend. At that point it looked as if the
Potters would have to go into hiding so obviously they could not do
the big christening thing and invite lots of people. Sirius is the
only one, unfortunately. I have got to be careful what I say there,
haven't I?
Mac now: so Harry was christened ... hmmmmmmmm (I do hope JC isn't
supposed to be behind 'that' door at the MoM or else anything to do
with the veil).
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