Nagging thoughts on Pheonixes & LV
justcarol67
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 7 01:52:16 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112210
Amy wrote:
<snip>
> I have a few questions about the Pheonix Dumbledore has (Fawkes);
the feathers in the 2 wands (of HP & LV), and Dumbledore in general.
>
> 1. I have a feeling there is more to the Dumbledore/Fawkes
> relationship than just owner & pet, and more than just the pheonix is
> DD's patronus....Dumbledore possesses a lot of the qualities of the
> pheonix himself. <snip>
> 3. Could DD & Fawkes be one in the same? I mean maybe DD is an
> animagus...he DID use to be the transfiguration teacher...and they
> coexist due to time-turner overlaps; to DD's great & brilliant
> stategy to keep on top of things? I like this idea because it means
> DD is in essence a never ending story. <snip>
>
Carol:
Sorry to snip, but a full answer to your post would require research
that I don't have time for. I agree entirely with point 1--note also
that Fawkes' colors (scarlet and gold) are the Gryffindor colors. I
think the house colors may *originate* with Fawkes and tha DD is the
ultimate Gryffindor (he even has a "griffin door" knocker). I don't
want to speculate on when or how he acquired Fawkes, but I think it
may well have belonged to him before he became headmaster and there's
clearly a mental or spiritual link between the bird (phoenix) and the
man (wizard), symbolized by DD's phoenix patronus.
As for point 3, clearly they can't be one and the same because they
appear together in several different scenes. In OoP, Fawkes saves DD's
life, as he couldn't do if he were DD's animagus form. Unless, of
course, you bring in time-turning (as you seem to want to but I don't).
Carol, who hopes we've seen the last of time-turning and all other
deus ex machinations (like my neologism, anybody?)
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