DD's agenda (was LV's survival )

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No: HPFGUIDX 112280

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote:
> Carolyn, you made a nice summation of this thread. I just wanted 
to 
> clarify one point made by me. You said:
> 
> > Incidentally, someone mentioned upthread (sorry, can't find 
> exactly 
> > who) something along the lines of only people with a pure heart 
> could 
> > choose a wand with a phoenix core, especially from Fawkes. Not 
> only 
> > does this pose problems with Tom Riddle, but it also isn't 
exactly 
> > what FBWTFT says. It just says that phoenix *song* is magical 
and 
> > reputed to increase the courage of the pure of heart and strike 
> fear 
> > into the hearts of the impure. 
> 
> Jen: I think you were referring to something I said in post 
#112154, 
> which was a slightly different from your statement. I said:
> 
> "So since the Phoenix song inspires courage in the pure of heart & 
> has tears with magical healing powers, you could extrapolate out 
to 
> say the Phoenix would only be loyal to a person of purity and 
> integrity. So Fawkes would *not* grant Dumbledore something for 
> personal gain or impure motives. So, I'd say Fawkes gave the 
feather 
> willingly based on his loyalty to Dumbledore, a person Fawkes 
deems 
> to have integrity."
> 
> I was just referring to Fawkes giving the feather willingly to 
> Dumbledore, not that a Phoenix-feather wand would choose only 
those 
> who are pure of heart. And my point *is* an extrapolation of 
Phoenix 
> characteristics beyond what is actually stated in FBAWTFT. But I 
> think it's a sound idea, given all we know of Fawkes ;). 
> 
> 
> Jen Reese

Mac now: Don't ask me how/why, but suddenly this post makes me ask 
the question that if a pheonix feather from *Fawkes* is as special 
as we all seem to think it IS, then how is it that Tom Riddle was 
given the first wand in the first case?

Is it that the SECOND feather became important only once the 1st 
wand had turned out to be in the wrong hands or was it that somehow 
Tom Riddle was selected to receive this wand because he was a 
fantasticly promising student and/or had a terribly sad 
and 'deserving' background before Hogwart's? The latter would be 
really interesting.

I am also reminded, because wandwoods are mentioned, of the 
discussion about Harry's scar (shape of a lightning bolt i.e. the 
rune eihwaz, associated with yew trees - a dark magical wandwood and 
the one used for the 1st wand - LV's). Harry's is made of Holly 
which is associated with good (redemption?) - worth reading at the 
link below (Warning - long!) if you haven't encountered these ideas 
(scar/runes/wandwoods, LV/Harry connection) and lots of other good 
things besides such as Hermione's frustration at her mistake on 
runes exam (ehwaz vs eihwaz - GoF or OotP - can't recall which) -

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