Conspiracies and re-assessments
dumbledore11214
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Wed Sep 8 23:58:09 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112419
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> >
Pippin:
>
> Well, I'm not sure I can convince you if you don't see it already,
> but if it was all noble and above board, why did they need to
> keep it secret? Why didn't they go to Professor McGonagall or
> Dumbledore and say, "We'd like permission to study the
> animagus transformation so we can help poor Remus?"
>
> Why did James have to keep his continued private war with
> Snape secret from Lily after they became friends? Sirius makes
> it pretty clear that she wouldn't have approved. And James was
> an *adult* by that time, too.
>
> I guess Lily had some misquided Muggleborn idea that people
> ought to be considered innocent until proven guilty--oh, wait,
> Dumbledore believes that too, doesn't he? I suppose he
> wouldn't have authorized James to form an inquisitorial squad.
> He would think that's a bad thing, you know, evil. It wouldn't
> happen if he had anything to say about it, would it?
>
Alla:
I think you mixed in several issues here, Pippin.
The original argument from you was (correct me if I am wrong) that
James should be considered evil because of ONE scene of his ongoing
war with Snape, where undoubtedly to me James was the bully and
Snape was the victim.
Several people (myself included) responded something to the effect
that even though James' actions in the Pensieve scene were
undoubtedly CRUEL, it is hard to condemn the person as evil based on
such scene, especially since we can infere or speculate that James
and Snape had an ongoing feud AND there are could be reasons why
James disliked Snape. Mitigating circunstances so to speak.
I don't remember anybody, especially myself justifying James'
actions per se.
Of course he was wrong to continue war with Snape. Just as Snape was
wrong to do so.
If James genuinely considered Snape to be evil (sepculation, of
course) and there is some objective evidence that JKR considers Dark
Arts to be evil, it is especially hard for me to call James evil.
I think I am confusing myself again.
Now, Animagi. Secrecy does not necessarily prove that such studies
are considered Dark Arts.
Otherwise animagi would be mentioned during DADA lessons, I think.
McGonagall talks about them during transfiguration lessons.
The fact that Marauders did not talk to Dumbledore about it. True,
but how does it show that they were practicing Dark Magic?
Very complicated, yes, dangerous TO THEM in a sense that something
with transformation can go wrong, yes.
I picture Maraduers wanting to prove to themselves that they are
able to achieve transformation without help of the teacher . They
did it indeed.
As Dumbledore says "extraordinary achievement- not least, keeping it
quiet from me. (PoA, p.428)
He praises them for both - for achieving the task and for keeping it
a secret.
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