Time-turning (was: Snape and DADA)

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 112443

SSSusan writes:
>>> <<SNIP>>
Hannah, PK, and Tylerswaxlion all seemed to agree that I *had* 
gotten it right as to JKR's version of TT:  that the past doesn't 
CHANGE as a result of TT, but that the two time-threads co-existed 
all along, only one of the two "versions" of a person wasn't aware 
of the 2nd "version" being present.  Yet here we have others saying 
that's NOT the way JKR is doing it--that she IS using TT to change 
time/events/the past.<<<
 
Chancie responded: 
> Hmm...I'm not sure any of us will agree on this one way or the 
> other until JKR tells us how the TT works!  But my thoughts are if 
> it is "impossible to change time" WHY have a time turner to begin 
> with???  What's the point of having the ability to go back in 
> time, and just look at things?  And also, why was Hermione so 
> concerned with getting back before the last chime of the clock?  
> If it is as you say, then she would automatically end up there on 
> time, because everything had already played out.  Why was 
> she "warned" not to change the past as Naama reminded us?  If she 
> couldn't CHANGE anything, then why worry with a warning?  Also, I 
> just found a quote that might help:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> "Harry, I don't understand what Dumbledore wants us to do.  Why 
> did he tell us to go back three hours?  How's that going to help 
> Sirius?"<Hermione>
> 
> Harry stared at her shadowy face.
> "There must be something that *HAPPENED* around now he wants us to 
> *CHANGE*" he said slowly.  <Harry>
> 
> (The emphisis is mine of course)
> POA, Chapter21 page 396 American Paperback. 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Well that's my take on the TT (once again) I don't expect it to 
> change any of your point of views, but maybe it will give my 
> argument a little more weight.

 
SSSusan:
If when you wrote "your point of views" you included me, then hey--
I'm WAY open to changing my point of view on this topic!  Every time 
I seem to think I'm getting a grasp of it, something gets presented 
which tweaks it (or makes me want to give up).

I mean, whoa!  That quote seems significant to me!  I hadn't even 
thought of that reference to *changing* something, even though it's 
in both the book and the movie, so I should have remembered it.  

How do folks in the "JKR is *not* using TT in the style of going 
back to CHANGE things" camp account for this phrasing?  

Siriusly Snapey Susan