The Sneak Mark (was "Slytherin" Hermione?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 112471

> I, Marcela, wrote earlier:
> " I strongly believe that Madam Pomfrey just didn't want to fix 
> Marietta's face, same as Flitwick and McGonagall didn't want to 
fix 
> the swamp, or put out the twins fire crackers... they were sort of
> 'boycotting' the new regime and its supporters, LOL.  Do you think
> that McGonagall would not have asked Harry (or Hermione) what was 
that
> jinx about if she had 'wanted' to get Marietta better?"
> 

> Del replied:
> I can understand the Trio not wanting to lift the jinx, but I'd be
> completely *disgusted* by adults acting that way. Letting students
> create mayhem is one thing, letting a particular student be 
disfigured
> for months is another.
> 
> I wrote:
> "Don't forget about them being wizards and witches, jinxes happen 
all
>  the time and they can be solved -not like curses and/or powerful 
> spells, which could probably not be fixable."
> 
> Del replied :
> And how do we know which type is the jinx Hermione used ? Hermione 
is
> a powerful witch and she's researched quite a bit. I don't put
> anything past a girl who brewed a Polyjuice Potion at the age of 
12.
> Moreover, I would think that Madam Pomfrey would have lifted the 
jinx
> before Marrietta went home for the summer, at least to avoid 
incensing
> the girl's parents, and also because it's a very unprofessional 
thing
> to do to let a student go back home injured in any way. But we know
> that Marrietta was still wearing her balaclava on the Hogwarts 
Express
> on the way home.

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Marcela now writes back:

I think that you are forgetting to put the story in its context.  
This story happens in a ficticious Wizarding World!  Just a look at 
St.Mungos Hospital's Reception room gives you an idea of what type 
of 'accidents' wizards and witches are exposed to... remember the 
wizard with the walnut up his nose? and the receptionist's comment 
of 'another family row'(or something like that), remember the guy 
with the 'biting shoes', he said his brother had given them to him, 
possibly as a joke -the poor fellow was in pain!... Anyhow, I 
believe that you are judging their 'world' with the standards of 
ours (or more precisely, the developed nations), and IIRC, Hermione 
gets bashed very, very often for trying to 'free' the house elves 
from the slavery injustice and everybody thinks she is 'nutters' for 
even trying to.  So there you are, grownups in the WW allow those 
injustices to happen.  
> 


Del wrote:
> 2. But, you will tell me, Marrietta did agree not to tell. All 
right.
> But who gave Hermione the right to decide of the type and the 
length
> of the punishment ? Hermione wasn't commissioned to do that, she
> wasn't even the DA's leader. She took the matter in her own hands
> without any authorisation. In-justice.
> 

Marcela again:
She has all the rights, since she is the 'founder' of this 
association -Harry is its leader, but she is its gray matter.  She 
herself invited the members to join -she probably told Ginny and Ron 
to do the same, using discretion of course-, the members themselves 
decided to sign the list, everybody agreed to secrecy.  Don't forget 
that the whole idea of this group is in complete defiance to 
Umbridge's way of teaching, Hermione was the brain behind the group, 
why not do everything to protect it and its members?



Del wrote:
> 3. You say it was a war situation. I agree. A war against Umbridge
> (not LV). Only problem is : Hermione *forcefully* enrolled the DA
> *before* making sure which side they were on to start with. Had she
> checked, she would have realised that she'd better keep Marrietta 
out
> of it, because Marrietta was almost naturally on Umbridge's side, 
not
> the DAs. Hermione forced Marrietta to betray Umbridge long before
> Marrietta betrayed the DA. The situation Hermione *unnecessarily* 
put
> Marrietta in was unfair.


Marcela writes back:

I have to quote this: ..."She (Hermione) rummaged in her bag and 
produced parchment and a quill, then hesitated, rather as though she 
was steeling herself to say something.
'I-I think everybody should write their name down, just so we know 
who was here.  But I also think,' she took a deep breath, 'that we 
all ought to agree not to shout about what we're doing.  So if you 
sign, you're agreeing not to tell Umbridge -or anybody else- what 
we're up to.'"... OoTP, page 346, h/c SE
and then this other:..." Nobody raised objections after Ernie, 
though Harry saw Cho's friend give her a rather reproachful look 
before adding her name. <snip>  There was an odd feeling in the 
group now.  It was as though they had just signed some kind of 
contract."... page 347.

Once again, Hermione didn't force anybody to join the group, she 
invited them to meet with Harry and to associate with him, whom at 
that moment was considered a 'pariah', they decided to sign by 
themselves after Hermione's words of caution.
BTW, how would Hermione know that Marietta was on Umbridge's side, 
afterall Cho was on Harry's side, you would expect her best friends 
would share the same feeling.  If someone forced Marietta to sign or 
attend the meeting, I would say it was Cho, which is a typical case 
of 'weak-friend-following-the-leader-in-order-to-fit-in', and it 
should have been Cho the one to raise this concern, since she knew 
her friend better than the Griffindors.


Marcela