Conspiracies and re-assessments

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 112485

> > 
> > Valky:
I can presume that Snape had as an *adult* learned 
> and mastered  far more dangerous and sadistic Black Arts curses by 
> this time too.  So well done to James if he could still hold his 
own  in battle with Mature!Snape using basic spells like Scourgify 
and Expelliarmus.  Dont you think?. :D
> 
> Potioncat:
> To be fair, if you're going to assume Severus Snape's magic became 
> more intense, why don't you also assume Jame Potter's magic became 
> more intense?  We weren't told that Severus used Dark Arts in the 
> Pensieve scene when he was fighting with James.  
> 
> I'll accept that he knew them.  We weren't told how or if he used 
> them. We are told that James hexed people in the halls just 
because he could. 

Valky:
Please forgive me for being amused that you would say this.
Of course I assume that James magic became more intense, I was 
merely making a point of the innocuous nature of James choice of 
weaponry against a foe. I suppose what I presumed wrongly was that I 
had successfully illustrated that Snape was attacking James as much 
as James was ever attacking him according to Sirius canon.
Frankly, why do you disregard so entirely that Snape was on the path 
to being DE at this time? That he clearly did have an ambition to 
master Dark Curses at this time? That James was more and more deeply 
in mortal danger as Snapes foe each day that passed following the 
pensieve scene? Make no mistake. James saw a Dark man in Snape, and 
he was *not* all that wrong. 

I always concede the argument that those who were compassionate of 
Snape *may* yet prove to be the ones who were the truly right. But 
Snape *was* a Death Eater he did engage in Death Eater warfare. 
Most likely he killed and pillaged along with his fellow DE's, most 
likely he used and practiced Dark Curses at the very least with some 
malicious intent to boot. Definately he hated James for whatever 
reason and probably not least of all for James' publicy 
demonstrating him weak against innocuous magic. If Snape didn't try 
to kill James the instant he found himself equipped for the purpose 
then I am Figgy's kneecaps.

Not all WW soldiers in the war agreed with or chose to take 
advantage of the advisory to use Unforgivables. James was 
undoubtedly one of the opposers of it. I bet every last Galleon I 
win on all my other bets on James. That is going to be a *lot* of 
Galleons. ;D


> 
> Based on what we  heard about James in previous books, I believe 
he really changed as he matured!
> Potioncat

Valky:
You see potioncat this is exactly my point! He didn't change! He 
displayed better manners in the prescence of ladies and that is it! 
Why does everyone accuse Sirius of expecting Harry to act exactly 
like James if the James he lost fifteen years ago was such a 
different man to fifteen year old James?
Some of us don't want to like James after the pensieve and thats 
fair enough, I would probably have felt the same as Lily about his 
behaviour. But nevertheless his heart is on his sleeve in that scene 
and *I* like the big bumbling boofhead's heart. He's a bloke after 
all... ahum... did I say that?