[HPforGrownups] Re: Time-turning (was: Snape and DADA)

Lynx412 at AOL.com Lynx412 at AOL.com
Thu Sep 9 21:09:49 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112523

In a message dated 9/8/2004 10:03:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net writes:

> 
> >"Harry, I don't understand what Dumbledore wants us to do.  Why 
> >did he tell us to go back three hours?  How's that going to help 
> >Sirius?"<Hermione>
> >
> >Harry stared at her shadowy face.
> >"There must be something that *HAPPENED* around now he wants us to 
> >*CHANGE*" he said slowly.  <Harry>
> >
> >(The emphisis is mine of course)
> >POA, Chapter21 page 396 American Paperback. 

       OK, here's my least/most favorite debate again. ;-)

       We're confused because we're seeing the events through Harry and 
Hermione's eyes. Look at the events through Dumbldore's eyes and listen to his 
words: "More than one innocent life." 

       Dumbledore was at Hagrid's hut to oversee Bucky's execution. Instead 
he witnessed a missing hippogrif. Knowing his students, he assumed that the 
trio had found a way to save Bucky. The NEXT time he sees them is in the hospital 
wing. He talks to Sirius. He, most importantly, BELIEVES Sirius. He also 
realizes that the trio DID NOT rescue Bucky, there simply wasn't time between the 
disappearance of Bucky and the events in the Shrieking Shack. 

       He has also seen just what Harry's Patronus looks like. He even 
mentions the 'unusual form' Harry's Patronus takes. Snape saw the Patronus 
retreating and told DD what form it took. Since we are led to believe that no two 
Patronuses are the same Harry HAD to have cast that stag Patronus.

       DD knows, furthermore, that Hermione has a TT. Logically, therefore, 
she must have used it. If the Ministry had listened to Sirius' story and begun 
a search for Scabbers/Pettigrew the distraction would have allowed time for 
the rescue of Bucky and DD would have given the trio a hint. Since the Ministry 
refuses to listen to '13-year old wizards', they must use the TT to save 'more 
than one innocent life'. To everyone outside the loop, Bucky has already 
escaped, but H/H don't know that. To them, they have to change something. So, they 
rescue Bucky. Doing so places Harry in position to see who cast the Patronus, 
and to realize that HE did.

       The whole time from just before the would-be execution of Bucky to 
DD's locking the door to the Hospital wing there are TWO Harrys and TWO Hermiones 
doing two separate things just like there are two Hermiones attending two 
separate classes at the same time.

       The Other Cheryl



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