Time-turning (was: Snape and DADA)

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No: HPFGUIDX 112581

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com,MESSAGE 112467, chnc1024 at A... 
wrote:

>I wonder still (despite posts from others) that the end book will 
>have something to do with Harry going back in time to change the 
>past.  Maybe going back to when Tom Riddle opened the chamber of 
>secrets for the first time so that Hagrid doesn't get expelled, and 
>his parents live...ext...  But that's just my oppinon.  What do you 
guys think?


"K":

Let me say that for the most part I'm not a time travel fan. I'm not 
thinking of movies or other books when I give my opinion. I'm only 
going by the information JKR has given us so far. 

Nor do I desire to see time travel but I do believe it's happening 
and I'm just going to trust JKR that she will make it exciting and 
unique in her own way.

I believe Fred and George time travel but I won't discuss them. Tom 
Riddle? Why not? He's about the brightest student to attend Hogwarts 
and he would be one to have a great interest in the history of his 
family. Others have suggested Riddle used time travel as one means 
of trying to acheive immortality. I won't dismiss that idea.

Why couldn't one go back to before the time they were born? If you 
can go back 10 years why not 1,000? You are just traveling.

I don't want to get into Buckbeak a great deal. But, if Buckbeak 
didn't die and Sirius did escape, why send the kids on a time travel 
trip that could be dangeous? I find it hard to believe that time 
travel *must* occur for these events to take place. Time travel was 
used to change certain events.

What would have happened if Harry and Hermione made a mistake and 
ended up in another time and place? Buckbeak would have died and 
Sirius would have been taken away. 

~~It is your turn to listen, and I beg you will not interrupt me, 
because there is very little time, he (Dumbledore) said quietly.
snip
'What we need,' said Dumbledore slowly, and his light-blue eyes 
moved from Harry to Hermione, 'is more *time*.
snip
'If all goes well, you will be able to save more than one innocent 
life tonight. But remember this, both of you. *You must not be 
seen*. Miss Granger, you know the law - you know what is at 
stake...*you - must - not - be - seen.'
poa/ch 21/pgs 287-288/uk

How many times has JKR hit us over the head with *you must not be 
seen*. Things can go wrong with the time turner.

*If all goes well....

So there is a possibility that problems can arise. I also believe 
the two innocent lives are Buckbeak and Sirius.

Now I don't know if there's only one timeline or 20. I just believe 
one can travel forward and backward and that it's being done.

I do believe there are other hints throughout the books that time 
travel is occuring.


...time was slipping away as though somebody had
bewitched the clocks to go extra fast.
gof/ch 26/pg 483/us

There are so many other little references but I won't post them now.

Then there is the scene in the Department of Mysteries. They are 
studying time. 

How JKR is going to address time travel I don't know. If JKR ever  
says Buckbeak never died that would be fine with me. I'd go on from 
there.  
 
> Chancie ~happy to see proof that a TT does have a purpose (besides 
confusing 
> everyone) after all!! =)

"K":

And I thought the TT was only there to cause confusion. :-)

~~It must be nearly time to leave, Harry thought
miserably, please let it be nearly time...
cos/ch 7/pg 120/us