Beauty in HP (WAS: THEORY: Hogwarts curriculum)
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Sep 10 21:03:39 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112621
<Lotsa snips>
Kneasy wrote:
>>> Oh - has anyone come across anything described as 'beautiful' in
the books? Can't recall it myself. A society with no concept of
beauty - how primitive can you get?
It's a very pragmatic society, probably deliberately so, seemingly
concerned with the business of everyday affairs, totally uninterested
in what might loosely be described as cultural matters.<<<
SSSusan:
<more snips>
>> So hopefully that helps explain my take on the search for a
reference to Beauty in the books. I'll grant Potioncat's point that
we get Harry's perspective, primarily, so it could be that it's at
Hogwarts, fully established in the curriculum, along w/ routine
discussions of morality & ethics but that it's simply not noted by
our Harry. After all, we don't hear about brushing teeth or taking
showers, either, and presumably that's happening. :-) In this case,
though, as opposed to the tooth-brushing, I think these "non-
pragmatic" parts of education just really AREN'T dealt with much at
Hogwarts. Being a liberal arts kinda gal, I think that's a bit
sad.<<
Kneasy again:
> Yup; you've got my intended meaning.
> Many everyday things can be described as beautiful (though not many
> really justify the adjective) but what I'm on about is the study
> and appreciation of beauty, particularly in man-made (cultural)
> items - aesthetics, in essence.
>
> There are no beautiful paintings, statues, prose, poetry,
> buildings - in fact no concept or even acknowledgement of even its
> lesser forms - design, style, fashion (except Ron's hatred of his
> dress robes) - nothing that indicates that the WW has any taste at
> all.
> They're a bunch of barbarians.
SSSusan:
[Snort!] Barbarians, indeed. :-) You know, in thinking this over,
I think Snape's speech about potions at the start of first year came
as close as anything to a present-if-subtle message about Beauty. I
can't recall anything else from a class which came closer.
As to Potioncat's question a bit ago about electives, no, I don't
know what kind are offered, if any, except that Muggle Studies is
clearly optional. And actually, I wasn't thinking of a separate
class or classes at all--though Art Appreciation or Wizard Theatre
might be nice!--but more about these themes of aesthetics, ethics,
and moral consideration being INCORPORATED INTO those classes they
all do take: Potions, DADA, Transfiguration, History of Magic.
Sometimes things are learned best when a separate course, yes, but
sometimes the concepts are more easily grasped & applied when they
arise from a discussion of some specific content such as "What
happened to bring about the Goblin Rebellions?" or "Why are THESE
things considered Unforgiveables but not THESE things?"
Am I making any sense?
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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