Who Knows of the Death of Sirius

karen_lvssr klevasseur at earthlink.net
Sat Sep 11 18:22:52 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112702

 mhbobbin writes:
> <snip>
>  In previous posts, I--and others--have questioned whether 
there 
> will be a dispute about Grimmauld Place now that Sirius is 
dead. 


Karen L. here,

With regards to GP and the supposed inheritance of said 
building, Didn't Sirius "give" GP to DD as headquarters for the 
OoP?  I would assume that DD would have made sure that the 
house went directly to him in the event of Sirius's death.  
Although Sirius does not seem the sort to plan ahead, DD is.  
And with the dangerous "business" that the OoP is involved in, 
IMHO, DD would have made everything perfectly legal in the 
event of Sirius' death.  (even though Sirius is "locked up" in GP, 
DD knows that Sirius would get involved somehow in something 
that  may lead to his death, the man "knows" everything!) So I 
believe that the inheritance of GP would go to DD not the 
Malfoy's.  And as far as the fidelis charm wearing off, with DD
being the Secret Keeper and being that he is still alive, the 
location of the House would still be a secret.   So I believe that 
Sirius' death would be a moot point with regards to GP, because 
it should already be taken care of by DD.  It is curious though that 
his death was not mentioned in the DP, I guess they had other 
more pressing things to write about. 

















> 
> mhbobbin writes:
> 
>  In previous posts, I--and others--have questioned whether 
there 
> will be a dispute about Grimmauld Place now that Sirius is 
dead. 
> IMO, two things must happen before the Malfoys--or anyone 
else--can 
> lay claim to GP:
> 1. The Death of Sirius has to become known in the WW.
> 2. The inheritors would have to be able to find it---and that 
would 
> depend on the details of the Fidelius Charm and how/when it 
> terminates. Since the Order is what is being hidden, it seems 
to me 
> the Fidelius Charm will not wear off solely because of Sirius' 
death 
> but only JKR knows for sure.
> 
> I was rereading the end of the OotP, and what struck me this 
time 
> was that there were numerous Prophet articles that 
announced the 
> return of Voldethingy, the revolt of the Dementors, the 
vindication 
> of Harry, the appearance of DEs at the Mom but not a word 
about the 
> presumed death of Sirius Black. Not a word.
> 
>  I tried to determine who knew already about the death and it 
was 
> only the kids who were there or the members of the 
Order.Draco and 
> his gang don't mention it and they've never passed up a taunt 
> opportunity. So it seems only like a very close circle of people 
> know.
> 
>  With one exception. Nearly Headless Nick knows.  So I'm 
wondering 
> if Nick was briefed personally by DD, in preparation for Harry to 
> discuss death  with him, or if there is more information 
available 
> that JKR has just omitted. Like the obituary on Page 6 of the 
> Prophet.
> 
> I suspect it was just DD telling Nick and in confidence. Again, I 
> don't see any reason for the Order to have revealed the Death. 
> Bellatrix witnessed the death but she has to rear her ugly head 
> again and inform her sister etc. AND then how would they 
prove it?
> 
> Of course, I still believe that sometime before the end of Book 
7, 
> Harry will go beyond the veil and come out again. Maybe with 
Sirius. 
> Maybe without.
> 
> mhbbobbin






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