Who Knows of the Death of Sirius

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 12 12:23:46 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 112745

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "witchypooh67" 
<witchypooh67 at y...> wrote:
> mhbobbin writes:
> > 
> >  I tried to determine who knew already about the death and it was
> only the kids who were there or the members of the Order.Draco and
> his gang don't mention it and they've never passed up a taunt
> opportunity. So it seems only like a very close circle of people
> know
> 
> Now Kelly:
> 
> But the DE must know.  Sirius fell through the veil while he was 
> fighting Bellatrix.  So she, his cousin, knows.  She may be the 
heir 
> to GP. If she is not the heir, but Narcissa is, I am sure she 
would 
> be happy to share the news of Sirius' death.  I'm not sure either 
of 
> them realizes that GP is important to anyone and may not even 
think 
> about claiming it as their own, however.

mhbobbin:

Correct. Bellatrix knows and, therefore, the Malfoys will know. But 
my point was that Bellatrix would not be a good enough witness for 
the WW at large, not to mention she's hiding right now. How would 
Narcissa Malfoy prove that Sirius is dead in order to lay claim to 
GP?  Unless the other witnesses talk, or DD talks, there is no way 
the Wizarding World is going to know.  

Don't know what the legal process of inheritance would be in the WW 
but ostensibly someone would have to prove Sirius' death.  Rereading 
the Daily Prophet bits when the news breaks of Voldethingy's return, 
it is pretty clear that DD did not inform Fudge of the Death of 
their --to that moment---most wanted criminal.  There's no 
motivation for the Order or the Kids to reveal that information yet. 
And Bellatrix's info is important to the DEs and the conflict, but 
not the official WW.

As to my original point: Two events must happen before GP becomes an 
issue---Sirius' death has to be accepted in the WW and Grimauld 
Place would have to be located---before the Order could lose GP. 
It's not clear that either can happen.

But Nick knows of the death of Sirius, knows that Sirius is 
important to Harry, and suspects that Harry will find him to disucss 
it. How does he know this? My guess is that DD briefed him. I've 
always assumed that Nick is a major source of information for DD as 
to what is happening in Griffyndor House and with Harry 
specifically. And I wonder if Nick is a secret member of The ORder? 

mhbobbin





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