The Sneak Mark (was "Slytherin" Hermione?)
scoutmom21113
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Sun Sep 12 16:42:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112755
Just to muddy the discussion, here is a definition of contract:
1a. An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is
written and enforceable by law. b. The writing or document
containing such an agreement.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/53/C0605300.html
<<HunterGreen:
It was *not* a contract.
[OotP, chpt 16, pg 346, US edi.]
" 'I-I think everyone should write their name down, just so we know
who was here. But I also think,' she took a deep breath, 'that we
all ought to agree ot to shout about what we're doing. So if you
sign, you're agreeing not to tell Umbridge -- or anyone else -- what
we're up to.' "
That's hardly a contract. It was just a piece of paper actually.>>
Bookworm:
According to the definition, the "piece of paper" is the
record of an agreement. As you quoted, "So if you sign, you're
agreeing not to tell Umbridge -- or anyone else -- what we're up
to."
Hermione tells them outright that they are signing an agreement,
i.e. a contract. And she specifically mentioned Umbridge. Whether
or not the contract is `legally' enforceable depends on WW
law. But Hermione took care of that in her own way which was
definitely sneaky.
Tonks:
>>Also, after the kids signed the paper "there was an odd feeling in
the group now. It was as thought they had just signed some kind of
contract." (p.347)<<
Hermione was a salesman to be sure. She did not force anyone to
sign, but she did *encourage* Ernie to sign after he objected. After
he made the choice to sign "nobody raised objections after Ernie..."
HunterGreen:
It may have *felt* like it, but the fact that its mentioned "*as
though* they had just signed some kind of contract." (emphasis mine)
would imply that its NOT a contract, otherwise that statement
doesn't make sense.
Bookworm:
This is something that should have raised a red flag. JKR often
uses "as though", "as if" or "like" to give
us a hint. Here she told us that they *had* just signed a contract.
Hermione is opinionated but I wouldn't have considered her
persuasive before this. In this scene, and in the scene with Rita
Skeeter, we see additional depths to her character that haven't
been obvious before. (We had a hint when she trapped Rita.) She has
learned to make a hard sell. The results seem to be drastic, sort of
like shaving the heads of women who had affairs with German soldiers
in WWII. Is it a punishment, a warning, or both?
As a group we argue both (1) that these are just teenagers, not
adults, and shouldn't be expected to act like adults, and (2)
that they are in the middle of a war, have to grow up quickly and
act like adults. Hermione's actions are more like an adult's.
Viewed as a teenager's prank, the Sneak mark goes too far. But
viewed in a war-time setting...?
Ravenclaw Bookworm
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