Snape in the Shrieking Shack (was re:time-turning)
dumbledore11214
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Sun Sep 12 22:11:46 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112784
Totorivers wrote:
> snip.
>
> > Why didn't you talk about the morality? Snape has never shown
> > himself to have moral either...he enjoys taunting *children*,
and
> > have absolutely no problem handing a man to the dementor's kiss.
> > Rowling also declared that Snape was a true DE for a time,
meaning
> > that he tortured/raped children, and he probably enjoyed it
(Dark
> > arts being addictice, blablabla... would explain too the refusal
> of
> > teaching dada). I have trouble as envisioning such a man as
> *moral*.
> > Another thing I have trouble with Snape: an awful lot of people
> see
> > him as *rational* and *calm*... While he has proven everything
but
> > that. We have seen him with Moody and how his vein is apparants
in
> > anger, how he is unable to lie or to calm himself... Snape is
> *not*
> > good with subterfuge. The reason that Voldemort didn't realise
he
> > was a spy is probably *because* of that, after all, Snape is the
> > kind of person to truly enjoy DE's duties...
> Alla:
>
> I did not talk about morality, because I consider Snape capable of
> making moral choices sometimes.
> I agree with you that he enjoys taunting children, that is why I
> have so much trouble with Magda's statement that Snape's sense of
> morality includes fairness. To me, he is nowhere close being fair
> person and fair teacher.
>
> But, untill Snape's motives are revealed I choose to think that he
> is capable of doing the right thing.
> The most obvious example of course is going back to Light.
>
> Doing the right thing and being fair are two very different things
to me, though.
> Yes, since I think of him as sadist, I agree with you that he was
a full DE, who engaged in a very morally questionable activities, at
least and quite possibly in mass murders. I am one of those who
wants to believe that he came back to Dumbledore for the right
reasons whatever they are. To think that he was not participating
fully and actively in DE activities, untill JKR says otherwise of
course, will be cheapening his redemption,IMO.
>
> I am not one of those posters, who sees Snape as rational and
calm,
> on the contrary, I see him capable going off the deep end under
> pressure (two primary examples are Shack and failure of the
> Occlumency).
>
> To make a long story short, I am always ready to bash Snape for
what
> he does to children and especially to Harry, but sometimes I want
to
> give him credit for doing the right thing.
> I also don't believe in ESE!Snape.
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