Sirius' Innocence

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 112812

Susana said:
"Quick, yes, but that's the weight DD's word has in some circles. You're
forgetting a few things though:
DD sends Sirius to Lupin so the can *toguether* get in touch with the 'old
crowd'.
The 'old crowd' most likely knew Sirius and the affection he had for James.
With Lupin stating he saw Pettigrew who confess the betrayal, and asking
them to regroup on DD's command"


DuffyPoo:
"*You* are to alert Remus Lupin, Arabella FIgg, Mundungus Fletcher -- the old crowd.  Lie low at Lupin's for a while, I will contact you there." (GoF) Doesn't say anything about Lupin and Sirius getting in touch with the 'old crowd' together.  "I might add that werewolves are so mistrusted by most of our kind that his support will count for very little." (PoA)  Just because DD and Sirius trust Lupin doesn't mean all of the 'old crowd' did as well.  If a werewolf and a convicted murderer/escapee showed up at my door claiming the murderer was innocent, the 14 years-dead was alive, that LV was 'back' and that DD wanted to regroup, I'd have signed up in a second....NOT.  How many times have we heard convicts - and their familes/friends - claim they are innocent?  I'd have thought they were under a confundus charm.  


Susana said:
"I don't have time to find a quote but I recall something about Arthur
knowing what an idiot Fudge is and only staying at the MoM because he loves
his job. I'm sure the MoM employees all know the character quite well and
have no big problem believing his not handling the situation the best way."

DuffyPoo
"He knows what Fudge is.  It's Arthur's fondness for Muggles that has held him back at the Ministry all these years.  Fudge thinks he lacks proper wizarding pride."  This came after DD accused Fudge of being "blinded by the love of the office you hold, Cornelius! You place too much importance, and you always have done, on the so-called purity of blood!  You fail to recognize it matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be!"  Arthur believed Fudge, beyond any doubt, when he said Sirius broke out of Azkaban to kill Harry.  Ron didn't talk about Sirius at home, obviously, from Molly's reaction in the Hospital wing when Sirius transformed.  She still believes he is guilty, at that point.  

Just an aside to this, in PoA Ron said "Get away from me, werewolf!" obviously showing his prejudice against the breed.  Just how much convincing did DD have to do during his meeting with Molly?  

I am quite sure there are more employees at the Ministry that believe Fudge than believe Dumbledore. Percy, Madam Edgecombe, Dolores Umbridge, Dawlish, Williamson, and those who went with Umbridge to give Hagrid his Order of Dismissal.  Dawlish was one but there were three others.   "You see the problem," said Lupin.  "While the Ministry insisits there is nothing to fear from Voldemort it's hard to convince people he's back, especially as they really don't want to believe it in the first place.  What's more, the Ministry's leaning heavily on the Daily Prophet not to report any of what they're calling Dumbldore's rumour-mongering, so most of the wizarding community are completely unaware anything's happened." "Tonks and Arthur [and Kingsley] would lose their jobs at the Ministry if they started shooting their mouths off," said Sirius, "and it's very important for us to have spies inside the Ministry, because you can bet Voldemort will have them."   


Susana said:
<<Last but not least, Neville said (not an exact quote): "My grandmother said
that if DD says his back, then his back.">>

DuffyPoo:
You're fogetting the first half of that quote: "We believe Harry.  My gran's always said You-Know-Who would come back one day."  Mrs. Longbottom would have believed it no matter who said it.  


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