The Sneak Mark (was "Slytherin" Hermione?)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Sep 13 14:47:46 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 112826
There are several ethical issues raised by Hermione's actions
and they need to be considered separately. To justify them all by
saying that Marietta was a snitch and deserved to be punished is
to make the ends justify the means. In that case, the question is
not whether Hermione is a Slytherin but whether we are ;-) ...
which is better discussed on OT-Chatter.
Tonks_op
> Also, after the kids signed the paper "there was an odd feeling
in the group now. It was as thought they had just signed some
kind of contract." (p.347)<
Pippin:
It isn't a contract unless the parties involved agree to *all* the
provisions. The students did not agree to be hexed if they
violated the agreement, any more than Harry agreed to be hexed
if he failed to teach defensive skills.
The students did agree that Harry should teach them, and you
could argue that they were giving *Harry* the authority to punish
them, since those with authority over students in the WW have
the right to discipline them, and even to disfigure them.
(Umbridge aside, we are told that Arthur still has the marks of a
beating he received for violating curfew.)
If so, then Hermione usurped Harry's power and only got his
consent after the fact. That is an abuse of power similar to that of
one Dolores Umbridge, and I think the use of a mutilating
punishment deliberately emphasizes the similarity. Hermione is
on a rather slippery slope.
I don't believe Hermione is a Slytherin--if you asked her whether
you should use any means to achieve your ends she'd say no.
But she has a tendency to assume that because she is a good
person, any means which does not cause her conscience to
revolt is okay-- and some fans may make that mistake along with
her. But Dumbledore's analysis of his failure with Harry shows
us the limits of relying on your internalized sense of values.
Tonks_op
>
> But lets look at the lesson here:
> What might be a motive for the author to not punish Hermione?
The motive might be that JKR doesn't want to punish Hermione
*yet*. For example, Harry tells lies beginning in Book One, but
only in GoF do we begin to see the negative consequences --
Ron won't believe that Harry is telling the truth about the Goblet,
and Harry realizes that he is letting Hagrid down by letting him
think he is working hard to solve the egg clue. Dumbledore
withholds information from Harry for five books before we find out
that it was a mistake for him to do so.
Hermione's attempt to trick the House Elves into freedom and
her assumption that the Centaurs would fall in with her plan to
deal with Umbridge are other examples that show how her
internal sense of values sometimes leads her astray. This
struggle is part of Hermione's continuing development, and we
shouldn't expect it to be resolved instantly.
Rowling's magic formula for deciding between your internal
sense of values and others' would seem to be, go with the
choice that is more difficult. But first you have to be aware that
there is a choice--Hermione simply assumes that where her
values conflict with others', it's the others who are wrong, not her.
Pippin
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