Snape in the Shrieking Shack (was re:time-turning)

[Nora Renka]

No: HPFGUIDX 112843

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
 
> The conversation between Fudge and Snape that you refer to 
> takes place 10 minutes *before* Harry and Hermione leave the 
> hospital wing. It comes before Snape has had a chance to hear 
> that Dumbledore believes Black's story.
> 
> The timeline is confusing but look at it this way:
> 
> Dumbledore has his conversation with Sirius
> Sirius is freed by TT!Harry and TT!Hermione
> 11:45 Snape and Fudge are on their way to the hospital wing 
> and are overheard by TT!Harry and TT!Hermione
> Snape and Fudge arrive at the hospital wing.
> Dumbledore arrives at the hospital wing and tells Snape Sirius's 
> story matches with what the kids are saying. 
> Fudge says the Dementors should have arrived and he goes to 
> meet them, followed by Snape.
> 11:55Dumbledore leaves the hospital wing and locks the door.
> Harry and Hermione use the time-turner
> TT!Harry and TT!Hermione arrive outside the door.
> Dumbledore unlocks the door and lets Harry and Hermione back 
> in to the room
> Dumbledore locks the door again
> Snape and Fudge arrive to announce Black's escape. 
> 
> 
> Snape is furious afterwards because he believes that Potter has  
> acted on his own. As soon as Dumbledore delivers his coded 
> message that he knows and approves of what Harry has done, 
> Snape calms down, though he's still not happy about it.

Well, pooh.  That means I would like to go back and rip my chronology 
out of the archives, because it needs to be corrected--but I see the 
point, and bow to your nitpickiness.  I should go and look over it 
again, but I am a dedicated avoider of thinking about time-turning.

Still doesn't invalidate the veddy interesting question of Snape 
sucking up to Fudge--it just does make the important shift of putting 
it *before* Dumbledore's expressions of doubt in the Hospital Wing.  
I am *not* going to try to think about this right now, though; what's 
the part I'm not sure about is this: H&H are hiding in the closet 
when they hear Snape and Fudge going by--is it clear whether this is 
the two of them coming or going?  Because the point of time-turning, 
the point of origin if you will, is after Dumbledore has cleared out 
the wing to talk to H&H alone.  But I am flying without a net here, 
on pure recollection, and will check myself later to make sure.

Still have to say that Snape expressing to Fudge, at any time in 
place, a wish that DD isn't going to cause trouble...that still makes 
me cringe.  Whether Snape thought Black was guilty or not.

-Nora whacks herself for not having noticed the potential problems 
all along, and slinks off in shame